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Quote Originally Posted by theundeadhero View Post
Yoda might have been duped by Palpatine's show, but Gandalf was just as blind to Suaramon's Saruman's unwillingness to do anything about the ring because he had been studying it for his own personal gain for years and years and years.
The fall of the entire Republic and the slaughter of the Jedi is a bigger cock up than allowing Isengard to rise, as Isengard failed to even defeat Rohan.
Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel
His magic comes from the ignorant second race that claims it is magic, when it is merely a manipulation of nature
I've never heard of his magic being called a "manipulation of nature". In fact, I'd always been led to believe that he was capable of magic using spells and incantations. Where'd you get that from, if you don't mind me asking?