No. And go ask in the KH section.Originally Posted by G3ORGE
After dying? Not likely.
A translation notorious for being error wrought. It's also the only place she's actually called 'Aeris' instead of Aerith. And even were it official and not completely overwhelmed by the sources she's been called Aerith in, it's been retconned.
This, ladies and gentlemen, describes exactly how badly translation errors can warp the feeble little minds of gamers! And Aerith's name wasn't the ONLY translation error in the game; another translation error also affected people's view of the storyline. In fact, because of one translation error, many fans believed a certain member of the Turks to be DEAD!
Of course, there are even worse translation errors to the point where they just don't make any sense whatsoever!
What's next? People actually claiming that of the four bosses in SF2, the Boxer is Balrog, the guy with the talon is Vega, and the final boss is M. Bison, when we KNOW the boxer is M. Bison, the guy with the talon is Balrog, and the final boss is Vega? (everybody KNOWS those names were switched around in the US version to avoid a lawsuit from Mike Tyson) That Ermac was in the first Mortal Kombat? That you could access the Hot Coffee mode in GTA: San Andreas by normal means? (meaning WITHOUT a cheat device)
Last edited by Bloodline666; 09-27-2006 at 11:28 AM.
I wholeheartedly agree that speaking English doesn't make anyone royalty (although they still like to play dress up in red and gold), but Orphan, I myself had at one time compared Aerith's "real name" to "Earth" and was shot down by someone with literal translations. The word Aerith has nothing to do with "Earth."She died as Aeris in the english version of the game only. It's not like english speakers are the kings of the world.
Oh and by the way, they took Aerith because it's the anagram of Earth. If you add a 'i' to Earth and replace the letters in another order, it gives Aerith. They took Earth because she is very important to the planet in the storyline.
Because he wore the same outfit as Scorpion and Sub-Zero? Because he wore the same outfit as the hidden character, Reptile?
Yeah, I can see how people would think that Rain was an alternate hidden character that you were punished with if you couldn't unlock Reptile. lol
That aside though, Mortal Kombat is supposedly an American game fronted by Mike Boon and (first name here) Tobias, which is where the character Noob Saibot originates from. It's because it's an American game that they can get away with "mispronouncing" Raiden.
Tell me. If the only problem presented with translating Aerith's name was the alphabetic characters applied, WHY THE HELL DID SEPHIROTH TURN OUT RIGHT!?Well, at this point you're making the mistake of following the katakana, which are just syllabized versions of foreign words under most circumstances. For example, to follow the kana for computer, you get co n pi yu - ta, or conpyuta, though the japanese are perfectly capable of saying computer. Another good example would be the Physalis from Gundam 0083. You cannot literally get 'physalis' in japanese kana, but you can come close, and it is understood that the proper name is Physalis. Same with Aerith, though it's made worse by the problem that japanese does not have a kana specifically for 'th' and uses the 'su' instead.How? Do they pronounce it Aerit? Or Aeris? I'm not argueing, I genuinely don't know, I just don't really see how it could be closer to Aerith than Aeris.Course it can. Or at least close to, like Sephiroth.
Also, Cloud's move is not Omnislash V5. It was first seen in Tactics so that name applies. Pretty much with this, my reason is that I hate when new summons, magics, or attacks are given the same name but with an added word or phrase (like all those damned Bahamuts.)
Last edited by Mercen-X; 09-28-2006 at 12:28 AM.
It isn't like the early PS1 Square games are praised for their translations. FFVII is no exception, and if you want a kick, go read the script of Final Fantasy Tactics.
Regardless, Aerith is her official name. There is no argument.
Actually, to clarify a few things:
For one, pallete-swapping to create characters from already-existing characters was pretty common in 2D games, possibly dating back to the original Mario Bros. game with Luigi being a pallete-swap of Mario (the practice may even date back further, for all I know), due to the memory limitations in games at the time. So basically, it was like Ryu/Ken (though the heads on their respective sprites were different, the rest of the body on the sprites were pallete-swaps of each other), Mario/Luigi (early Mario games, though the official character artwork for the two dictated otherwise), Scorpion/Sub-Zero...you know the drill. In essence, cheating to create new characters when memory limitation problems developed. The Ermac rumor was brought about by an issue of EGM Magazine that had a screenshot of Ermac taken with a polaroid camera. Someone had sent the magazine this photo, and it was put in the magazine, and that's where the rumor started. Turns out the "screenshot" was a fake. Similar in nature to the Ermac rumor was the Sheng Long SF2 rumor, but this was not instigated by a fan; it was instigated by EGM Magazine, themselves. I believe it was put in an April issue of the magazine, and was meant as an April Fool's joke. Capcom of America actually believed this, and contacted Capcom of Japan, asking them how to fight Sheng Long. This eventually led to the creation of Akuma/Gouki in Super Street Fighter II Turbo (Capcom again showing their notoriety of changing characters' names in the US version of their games).
Also, it was Ed Boon and John Tobias that created Mortal Kombat, not Mike Boon and John Tobias. Mike Boon would join the development team later on, and just so happens to be Ed Boon's brother.
And while we're on the subject of misspelled names, such is the case with Aerith/Aeris here, Raiden's name in the console versions of MK1 - MKT was not a translation error (which was the case of Aerith's name being misspelled in the US version of FF7; and besides, MK was an American game, so no translations were necessary); In the case of Raiden (or "Rayden" in the console versions), it was a copyright issue, just like the boss name rotation that occurred in US version of Street Fighter II, and subsequent SF games, with M. Bison, Balrog, and Vega, as another game company owned the rights to "Raiden" for console games, thus, all references to his name had the "i" in his name changed to "y" in the console versions of MK1-MKT (lifebar, storyline text, bio text, ending text, etc.). It wasn't until around the time of MK4 when the company holding the rights to the name "Raiden" for console games stopped holding the rights to that name, and thus, Midway was finally allowed to use the name "Raiden" as it was originally spelled in the console versions of all subsequent MK games, starting with MK4.
I couldn't help but laugh at the "l" and "r" being used interchangably in characters' names in the game. One minute, you see "Omdolia", and the next, you see "Omdoria". At one point, I think they even spelled Ruvelia's name as "Luveria".
Last edited by Bloodline666; 09-28-2006 at 12:52 AM.
Thank you for that. I officially HATE the American Copyright System.
. . . and I knew his name was Ed but Mike was in my head. At least I didn't make him up. That's a relief.
Exactly! The names of three bosses being rotated in the US version of a game, while staying as-is in the Japanese version...all because Mike Tyson's legal team didn't want a black boxer named "Mike Bison" in Street Fighter II. smurfed-up, isn't it?
It's not the only problem. In fact, it wasn't. In the demo, she was Aerith. Stupid was what made Aerith turn out wrong, not simple translation errors.
1- Yes, it's Omnislash V5. That's its OFFICIAL NAME, so given because it was the fifth version they created.Also, Cloud's move is not Omnislash V5. It was first seen in Tactics so that name applies.
2- It is NOT Cherry Blossom.
She was named Aerith in the demo of FFVII!?
So your trying to say that because it was in the original game that it should be spelt Aeris? so what, when someone is ill I should go around saying this guy are sick? lol i dont think so, Aerith is a better looking name.
Personally, I think Vega better suits the clawed fighter than "Balrog". Either way, this is forever burned into my head:Exactly! The names of three bosses being rotated in the US version of a game, while staying as-is in the Japanese version...all because Mike Tyson's legal team didn't want a black boxer named "Mike Bison" in Street Fighter II. smurfed-up, isn't it?
M. Bison = Boss, Vega = Badass, Aeris = Flower Girl, Aerith = ?
Really, I don't see why all this matters, the sounds 'th' and 's' are close enough, it's just a name...and like rubah, I think Aeris sounds better.
No it's nawt! It looks weird. You only think it looks better because it's the official name and you've wrapped your brain around the concept and say that it looks better so you can actually accept it.
Granted, I spent a lot of time calling her Aireez.
Bad Monkey. "looks better" is an entirely subjective concept. You cannot argue with a totally subjective concept.No it's nawt! It looks weird. You only think it looks better because it's the official name and you've wrapped your brain around the concept and say that it looks better so you can actually accept it.
Granted, I spent a lot of time calling her Aireez.
i just love it when people spell it ARIES....so if it was aerith, it would ruin my fun
Aerith is far more noble.
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