haha, nice.....neway, she died to early, for it to be a bigger impact we needed to get to know her better, she should have died end of 2nd disk
haha, nice.....neway, she died to early, for it to be a bigger impact we needed to get to know her better, she should have died end of 2nd disk
or when she gives you flowers/not give, gets shot my the shinra people, hehehhehe
Sephiroth was decent enough as a villain but I tend to agree with the vast majority here that he is not the best villain in the series. That would probably be Kefka.
And like i said before, i thought he had an excellent personality, and made a great villian.Like it's been said before, it's his looks that make him the favorite of many and why he is so overrated.
That's your opinion, and that's fair enough, but i think Sephy had more of that than them.People who like villains such as Kefka and Kuja like them because of their villainy
True, but see, this is where it's hard to have an educated argument about Sephiroth, because everyone sees the fanboys/girls rave on about them and they automatically think he's overrated. When i first played VII, i was excited by Sephiroth's character, hell i was excited by Kefka's too, but saying that Sephiroth is unoriginal & such leaves me to say you have been reading into the forum's too much. When you first played VII, did you feel the same about him?and also, you hear Sehpy fans saying stuff like "Kefka is a clown" or "Kuja looks like a girl" and basically the only reason you hear why Sephy fanboys/fangirls say he looks cool is something like "pmgz sephiroth looks so friggen awesome and has a big sword."
That's what my argument is, about my opinion on Sephiroth. I was just using the fact about the poll to back up my answer.Now, people like 'The Crystal' actually go beyond his looks and gives many more reasons why Sephiroth is the best. Now, I may not agree with him, but at least I respect that he is actually supporting his opinion with facts (not opinions), something which some, if not most Sephy fans can't do, because they are all opinion and no facts.
Obviously you didn't, i just wanted to let you know. It was just a statement, not something got to do with this argument, so it's irrelivant either way.And by the way, I never accused you of saying Sephiroth was your favorite. I was just replying to how looks make a villain liked more, not actually a greater villain.
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Sephiroth has that feeling of pure evilness....He is just so cold, the way he talks...everything. It just makes him a great villian...I would have to say he is the best...an opinion obviously, I don't need facts to support an opinion, especially if other people don't feel the same way...
Kefka is awesome too...but in a much different way. He protrayed more of insanity. He was evil too, just not concentrated like Sephiroth. He moved statues that controled the balance of the world, without even thinking!! And used poison on the water supply not caring about families! He seemed to have a few screws loose. Evil and a good villian yes, but it seems that someone more in control of what they were doing could do better...
Kuja...I thought he was a woman the whole game!! I kept confusing him with Beatrix!! LOL...He actually had some control of his actions, but saying he was a good villian is like saying liza is too..you need looks and personality..he definitely had the personality...and the power..but I would take a guy in a trench coat with a long sword over a guy wearing a thong anyday...
If I were a Final Fantasy Boss, I would be named something cool like Super-Ultra-Foxtrot-Omega Weapon or something cool like that...
posted by PuPu
Like it's been said before, it's his looks that make him the favorite of many and why he is so overrated. People who like villains such as Kefka and Kuja like them because of their villainy, and also, you hear Sehpy fans saying stuff like "Kefka is a clown" or "Kuja looks like a girl" and basically the only reason you hear why Sephy fanboys/fangirls say he looks cool is something like "pmgz sephiroth looks so friggen awesome and has a big sword." Now, people like 'The Crystal' actually go beyond his looks and gives many more reasons why Sephiroth is the best. Now, I may not agree with him, but at least I respect that he is actually supporting his opinion with facts (not opinions), something which some, if not most Sephy fans can't do, because they are all opinion and no facts.
And by the way, I never accused you of saying Sephiroth was your favorite. I was just replying to how looks make a villain liked more, not actually a greater villain.
this is all about opinions nobody knows who is the greatest villain in the series you say you have facts you don’t! neither do I, its all opinions.
Um, yeah he does.Originally Posted by chrisfffan
Kefka downed 8+ Espers FACT
Kuja demolished a world (the extant can be argued but he demoed some of it at least) FACT
Stuff like...
Kuja/Kefka/Sephiroth/etc. is really cool and was great OPINION
but if it was said like this...
Kuja/Kefka/Sephiroth/etc.'s acts through out the game potray that he is insane which makes him a better villian FACT (as long as the acts are listed.
Except the notion that insanity makes for a better villain is also a matter of opinion. There are plenty of non-insane villains that are very highly regarded (Darth Vader, for example).
You know what I was going for providing facts behind your reasons....Except the notion that insanity makes for a better villain is also a matter of opinion. There are plenty of non-insane villains that are very highly regarded (Darth Vader, for example).
Last edited by Goldenboko; 12-15-2006 at 02:22 PM.
Posted by Goldenboco
Um, yeah he does
Kefka downed 8+ Espers FACT
Kuja demolished a world (the extant can be argued but he demoed some of it at least) FACT
Stuff like...
Kuja/Kefka/Sephiroth/etc. is really cool and was great OPINION
but if it was said like this...
Kuja/Kefka/Sephiroth/etc.'s acts through out the game potray that he is insane which makes him a better villian FACT (as long as the acts are listed.
Ok I could say that because Sephiroth killed the only playable character in the series that makes him the must ruthless villain but its just a opinion.
Uh, Sephy isn't the only one to score a player kill. Galuf ring a bell?
as I have said before I don’t know about the really old games im only 20! but with the final fantasy game on the ps1 and ps2 no other bad guy has killed a character you have role-played come to think of it on any game.
Sephiroth did many cool things too. He burned a village full of inocent people, he killed everyone inside the building that was the HQ of the most powerfull corporation in the world(and killed the president of it), after you almost died fighting the Midgar Zolom(for the first time) you discover that Sephiroth killed it AND impaled it on a tree like it was nothing, he could create illusions to trick people, was capable of controlling Jenova with only the power of his will, killed a playable character, summoned Meteor and created fear in all the population of the world, everyone that was killed by the Weapons and everything that they destroyed is Sephiroth's fault because the Weapons are free BECAUSE of him(even if this wasn't part of his original plan), hold Holly(one of the most powerful magic in the world) with only the power of his will, his Meteor destroyed Midgar(and released the Deep Ground Soldiers of their prison), he "poisoned" the entire world with Geostigma, etc.
Who say that Sephiroth only burned a village, killed a flower girl, and summoned a meteor, have to play the game again(and watch AC).
Err, ok. But then how can you possibly judge that Sephiroth is the best villain in the series if you haven't played FFI-VI? That's more or less half the series.
Galuf comes from FF5. Hardly the really old games, especially since it was re-released for the PS1 in the last several years.
As for age, I'm 22. I've played all the games.
Face it. Sephy wasn't the first villian to kill a party member.
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