I just don't like Sephiroth. He's just too insane. I personally like Golbez over the other villains. He's genuinely evil (most of the game... don't know how to do that spoiler thing), but he's not psycho. Plus, I just beat FF7 disc 1 today, and was very depressed.
Idiots!!!! Sephiroth has more powers, better looks, and a better weapon than any of those other fools who doesn't even kill a playable character. Heck, the game he's in even gets made into a two year later movie. I havn't seen anyother games turned into a movie and brings back the villan. One more thing, I also hear that they are making a remake of VII...well I don't know about all of you fools, but I don't hear that about any other games.Originally Posted by darksword12
I just don't like Sephiroth. He's just too insane. I personally like Golbez over the other villains. He's genuinely evil (most of the game... don't know how to do that spoiler thing), but he's not psycho. Plus, I just beat FF7 disc 1 today, and was very depressed.
:chuckle:Idiots!!!! Sephiroth has more powers, better looks, and a better weapon than any of those other fools who doesn't even kill a playable character. Heck, the game he's in even gets made into a two year later movie. I havn't seen anyother games turned into a movie and brings back the villan. One more thing, I also hear that they are making a remake of VII...well I don't know about all of you fools, but I don't hear that about any other games.I just don't like Sephiroth. He's just too insane. I personally like Golbez over the other villains. He's genuinely evil (most of the game... don't know how to do that spoiler thing), but he's not psycho. Plus, I just beat FF7 disc 1 today, and was very depressed.
How quickly we forget about Tellah, Galuf, Minwu, the list goes on. The villian powers gets very complicated, disputed, and ends with lots of nerds yelling at each other so please don't get into that. And as for remakes, sequals, and movies, they say nothing about Sephiroth except that FFVII has lots of crazy fans that know nothing of the other games, kinda like you.
You do realize that they're doing that to a game where gamers are easily manlipulated into buying something because of one specific scene, one specifi protagonist and an antagonist who doesn't (when you really think about it) do much at all.
Please feel free to read my take on the official novalisation of Dissidia Final Fantasy at this link:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5580755/..._You_Fight_For
I think I've read all the posts in the thread, but there's so many now that I'm probably repeating some stuff
Anyways, out of the FFs I've played, Sephiroth is my favorite villain, though not so much for his presence (which was still great imo, though the hair and sword could've been toned down), but for his personality combined with his background and motivation. His cold, calm, detached personality is not too exciting when compared to Kefka's, but combined with the revelation that he's basically a freak of nature and his reaction to it, and his decision to take revenge on the world for screwing him up, I thought it was very interesting. I don't know if that made sense, but yeah
So I guess those remakes of FFI-VI are fakes then
I laughed loud when i readed that. If you don't understand why, read the rest of my post.
His personality is not too exciting when compared to anyone. He is cold, arrogant and... And... And... ??? Sephiroth have one of the most poor and flat personalities of any FF vilain.His cold, calm, detached personality is not too exciting when compared to Kefka's,
It was interesting. Until he gained the knowledge of the Lifestream and discovered that the cause he was fighting for was wrong, because he wasn't a Cetra. But instead of regreting what he did in Nibelheim because of a wrong cause... He decided to become a god.but combined with the revelation that he's basically a freak of nature and his reaction to it, and his decision to take revenge on the world for screwing him up, I thought it was very interesting.His motive? Because he was power hungry! Great motive! Very creative SE. :rolleyes2
It didn't.I don't know if that made sense, but yeah
I'm sorry if i'm being an asshole, but i don't understand how people can like him because of his personality and motives. Don't get me wrong, he is one of my favorites characters in all FF series, but not because of his poor motives and personality.
I don't know about this. But i know that the FFVII remake is fake. That was just a FMV to show the capacity of the PS3, nothing more nothing less. Maybe in the future SE will remake it, but they aren't doing it right now.So I guess those remakes of FFI-VI are fakes then
I guess I meant to say that Sephiroth's motivation and personality were good to me compared to the other FF villains I've come across (and I'm sure other FF villains have been discussed already, I just can't be bothered to read the comments right now). It was just my odd little opinion (that I had a hard time articulating for some reason)
I know that the FFVII remake is fake, and that the FFI-VI remakes are real. I was being sarcastic...guess it doesn't translate too well over the internet.
I do to know about more game...I just don't think they had more of an inpact on the world than FFVII:chuckle:Idiots!!!! Sephiroth has more powers, better looks, and a better weapon than any of those other fools who doesn't even kill a playable character. Heck, the game he's in even gets made into a two year later movie. I havn't seen anyother games turned into a movie and brings back the villan. One more thing, I also hear that they are making a remake of VII...well I don't know about all of you fools, but I don't hear that about any other games.I just don't like Sephiroth. He's just too insane. I personally like Golbez over the other villains. He's genuinely evil (most of the game... don't know how to do that spoiler thing), but he's not psycho. Plus, I just beat FF7 disc 1 today, and was very depressed.
How quickly we forget about Tellah, Galuf, Minwu, the list goes on. The villian powers gets very complicated, disputed, and ends with lots of nerds yelling at each other so please don't get into that. And as for remakes, sequals, and movies, they say nothing about Sephiroth except that FFVII has lots of crazy fans that know nothing of the other games, kinda like you.
I think I've read all the posts in the thread, but there's so many now that I'm probably repeating some stuff
Anyways, out of the FFs I've played, Sephiroth is my favorite villain, though not so much for his presence (which was still great imo, though the hair and sword could've been toned down), but for his personality combined with his background and motivation. His cold, calm, detached personality is not too exciting when compared to Kefka's, but combined with the revelation that he's basically a freak of nature and his reaction to it, and his decision to take revenge on the world for screwing him up, I thought it was very interesting. I don't know if that made sense, but yeah
So I guess those remakes of FFI-VI are fakes then
Well Inever heard of the other remakes until now..I guess they arn't much of an impact on the world.
Just becasuse YOU never heard of them?! The FF remakes are making great success. When Disco Potato talked about them, i said that i didn't knew them, because i was thinking in PS3 remakes. But then i remember that exist the FF remakes for GBA, and understanded that Disco Potato was talking about them. These remakes have a great impact on the world.
Oh really? Then why did you claim Sephiroth is the only villain to kill a playable character? And your opinion doesn't make something true, the first generation of FFs modernized storytelling in video games. The music and graphics of the originals were revolutionary. You claim things but you can't back it up.I do to know about more game...I just don't think they had more of an inpact on the world than FFVII:chuckle:Idiots!!!! Sephiroth has more powers, better looks, and a better weapon than any of those other fools who doesn't even kill a playable character. Heck, the game he's in even gets made into a two year later movie. I havn't seen anyother games turned into a movie and brings back the villan. One more thing, I also hear that they are making a remake of VII...well I don't know about all of you fools, but I don't hear that about any other games.I just don't like Sephiroth. He's just too insane. I personally like Golbez over the other villains. He's genuinely evil (most of the game... don't know how to do that spoiler thing), but he's not psycho. Plus, I just beat FF7 disc 1 today, and was very depressed.
How quickly we forget about Tellah, Galuf, Minwu, the list goes on. The villian powers gets very complicated, disputed, and ends with lots of nerds yelling at each other so please don't get into that. And as for remakes, sequals, and movies, they say nothing about Sephiroth except that FFVII has lots of crazy fans that know nothing of the other games, kinda like you.
About the "dark clouds" in AC, that i was arguing with Ryushikaze some time ago, exist some things that suport what i was saying, but i forgot about them, and didn't said anything.
"Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo are referred to as physical manifestations of Sephiroth's spirit and will three times in the English text, with the specific wording used in Japanese being something akin to "will bodies of Sephiroth's thoughts" on one of those occasions and "phantoms of Sephiroth" on another. Also, Kadaj is said to represent Sephiroth's cruelty, while Yazoo represents his allure and Loz represents his strength." That means that they ARE Sephiroth. And they can controll part of the Tainted Lifestream(TL), like when Kadaj corrupted the water in the Sleeping Forest. If they can manipulate the TL, that means that Sephiroth can do the same. They used the the TL to create the Shadow Creepers(SC) too, "because materia allows someone to tap into the Lifestream's energy and manifest it as a spell"(including Summons), and the SC are Summons(with capital "s"). But we never saw them in the game, meaning that they are created by TL.
Now lets see, the SHM that are "weak" parts of Sephiroth's will(compared with Sephiroth himself) can manipulate the TL and even create life with it(the SC)! I think that is not hard to understand that Sephiroth(much more powerful than the SHM) could use the TL to simply cover the sky. Even because he said that he wanted to use it to reshape the face of the planet, and after this, the "dark clouds" begun to descend to "attack" the planet.
If you are reading this Ryu, you are probably thinking "But the RF never directly said that the clouds are TL", and you are right. But i was(and i am) only trying to make you understand that sometimes, we don't need direct answers, because we have just to understand that 1+1=2.
That was Kadaj's own essence. Slightly different than controlling the Lifestream en masse.
Does not follow. Bahamut Sin is not seen in game, but he's made from untainted Spirit Energy.If they can manipulate the TL, that means that Sephiroth can do the same. They used the the TL to create the Shadow Creepers(SC) too, "because materia allows someone to tap into the Lifestream's energy and manifest it as a spell"(including Summons), and the SC are Summons(with capital "s"). But we never saw them in the game, meaning that they are created by TL.
At which they were incredibly ineffectual.Now lets see, the SHM that are "weak" parts of Sephiroth's will(compared with Sephiroth himself) can manipulate the TL and even create life with it(the SC)! I think that is not hard to understand that Sephiroth(much more powerful than the SHM) could use the TL to simply cover the sky. Even because he said that he wanted to use it to reshape the face of the planet, and after this, the "dark clouds" begun to descend to "attack" the planet.
Actually, I'm thinking that you're still reaching. You want to say it's the Tainted Lifestream, show that it is. You want to say that the tainted lifestream represents a signifigant portion of the total lifestream, show evidence that it is. You want to prove any of your miriad claims about Sephy, then give me evidence.If you are reading this Ryu, you are probably thinking "But the RF never directly said that the clouds are TL", and you are right. But i was(and i am) only trying to make you understand that sometimes, we don't need direct answers, because we have just to understand that 1+1=2.
This is in no way the same as simple arithmetic, and even if it were, simple math was proven, not 'just understood'. Show me the evidence or admit you cannot prove your claims.
Hell, why i did this? I don't even know why i begun this arguing again. Ryushikaze, you allways talk about how evidences and facts are important. But you ignore Yoshinori Kitase's word, ignore the fact that Sephiroth can controll the Tainted Lifestream even when he said that he would use(controll) it, you said the nonsense that the TL are dark clouds that appeared out of nowhere for any reason at all, and in this same thread you said that Kuja blew up a planet without presenting any evidence to prove it. I'm tired of hearing your BS. Sephiroth can controll the TL and the "clouds" are part of it, as explained by Sephiroth himself(he said that he would use the TL to "destroy" the world, and after saying this, the "clouds" begun to descend to destroy everything), but if you are so dumb to not understand something so simple and obvious like that, and want to belive in the nonsense and retarded "logic" that they are just normal dark clouds that Sephiroth summoned without any reason, this is your problem.
And by all your posts that i read until today in these forums, is very obvious that you love evidences and facts, but is very obvious that you think that your opinions are facts. I hate arrogant people and i'm tired of your arrogance with everyone that you talk, thinking that you are "the god of truth" and that you are allways right and everyone is wrong.
My computer is stinking because of your BS, and to end all of this i will just put you in my ignore list.
Last edited by The Crystal; 02-16-2007 at 01:39 AM.
Sephiroth isn't the best villain. I'm quite fond of Vayne now from FFXII - he was pretty cunning, and didn't act like Kefka, which I liked - I just thought he was a bit more realistic then most villains.
Kefka, sure he's a good villain also but..I can't stand him.
Sephiroth was alright, but I don't know - I just don't see anything outstanding with him now. *shrugs*
Quote Renmiri on FFXII
She loves it more then X!I bitch about the game a lot, mainly for the lack of story and weak characters, but it is still the best of the series out there.
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