Can sony do one PS3 related thing without screwing up?

[Raistlin]

I told you that you weren't done, Joel.

I see Yams shredded your argument. You have nothing but your wishes and feelings that the 360 will drop in price, yet again with NO evidence. Most people also consider other games besides the launch titles when buying consoles.

[Yew-Yevon]

A minor subject...many of the game yet to come on 360 are also coming to PS3 such as COD3, and Darkness, Mercenaries2 is coming to PS3 with good polish. the point is that untill PS3 launch...most of the games yet to come won't (wich sux for 360 owners)

[MecaKane]

Dead or alive does not qualify a AAA game.
I hate to break it to you, but it does. You gotta PLAY IT to realize it. Beleive it or not it's very fun, you just gotta like games to actually like it.

Any fighting game where the main point is tits does not qualify as a AAA game.

Ports do not qualify as AAA games.
What ports did I mention?

Call of Duty 2, it came out a month earlier on PC. If that still qualifies xbox 360 as having a super fantastico launch, PS3 is going to have Obilvion. PS3 wins. Oh, and since this is all subjective, Call of Duty 3 is also ported launch title for PS3, if real RPGs don't float your boat. Oh, as well as Sonic the Hedgehog, and Rainbow Six: Vegas.

[Madame Adequate]

Dead or alive does not qualify a AAA game.
I hate to break it to you, but it does. You gotta PLAY IT to realize it. Beleive it or not it's very fun, you just gotta like games to actually like it.

Any fighting game where the main point is tits does not qualify as a AAA game.

Yeah, I really wish Tecmo would lay off the gratuitous sex stuff, seeing as the game itself is smurfing amazing (Best fighter series that's not SC), but people react against that one part of it.

[Sephex]

Just thought I would help everyone out in this thread.

Opinion

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–noun 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
6. a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.

[fantasyjunkie]

Dead or alive does not qualify a AAA game.
I hate to break it to you, but it does. You gotta PLAY IT to realize it. Beleive it or not it's very fun, you just gotta like games to actually like it.

Any fighting game where the main point is tits does not qualify as a AAA game.

Ports do not qualify as AAA games.
What ports did I mention?

Call of Duty 2, it came out a month earlier on PC. If that still qualifies xbox 360 as having a super fantastico launch, PS3 is going to have Obilvion. PS3 wins. Oh, and since this is all subjective, Call of Duty 3 is also ported launch title for PS3, if real RPGs don't float your boat. Oh, as well as Sonic the Hedgehog, and Rainbow Six: Vegas.

PS3 is going to have Oblivion? I'm playing it now on my 360
Maybe I misunderstood the post please explain

[Carl the Llama]

I only have one more thing to say on the PS3 issue, after this you guys can waste all of your hard earned gamer cash on this piece of crap.

Joel, have you even played a PS3? no, so how on earth can you call it a 'piece of crap' when you dont even know what it is capeable of? In my eyes you just a pathetic fan boy with arguements like these.

The PS3 launch is one of the worst launches I ever seen in a console. Ever! I've been around the block a few times, I've played and beaten thousands of video games in my lifetime, there is no way in hell the PS3 can last long unless the 3 has enough fanboys willing to waste their money on this.

Again all I hear (or read as the case may be is) OMG PS3 SUX! im a major Nintendo FAN BOI!!!!

1. The console itself costs WAY too much. 500-600 dollars is just not worth one console. For 600 you can buy a Wii and an XBox 360 (since the Premium set will drop to about 350 by the time the Wii and PS3 come out) and still play fun games like Dead Rising, Dead or Alive 4, Halo 3 (around early 2007), Enchanted Arms, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Phantasy Star Universe, Super Mario Galaxies, Sonic and the Secret Rings (origionally called Sonic Wildfire) Sonic the Hedgehog 360, and Condemned Criminal Origions.

Erm... the price is too much? correct me if im wrong, but didnt the 360 coue out at like $600? and dont say im wrong on this as I know that I am not (being the fact that I was the best sales advisor for Toys R Us at the time of the release). And believe me the 360 has a much smaller fanbase then the PS3 also you stupidly forget to take into account that the 360 sold on ebay for well over $1000 so if people are willing to 'throw away their money' on a 'pice of crap' like the 360 then the whole world (idiot fanboi's excluded) will be snapping up the PS3 like there is no tomorrow.

2. The PS3's hardware has so much high end technology that companies hardly wanna make games for it due to it being to hard to write them for it, notice how only a few Japanese developers are sticking with it? Konami, Square, Capcom (possibly just for Devil May Cry 4)

You again are foolishly mistaken, the developers are bound to snap it up as it will be one of the biggest gameing consoles on the planet, sony DOES have a huge fanbase and I personally think you are just trying to find chink's in the armor that just arent there.

3. Quite possibly the biggest thing of all. A lack of interesting launch titles. Sure early on people were pissing themselves over Metal Gear Solid 4.. oh but WAIT! It's not a launch title? OMGWTF I WILL STILL BUY ONE LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!1111ONEELEVENsmurfRE! All the cool games that will at least be somewhat fun for the 3 won't be out till at least mid-late 2007.

sure it might have a slow start but when the 3 different Final Fantasy's come out, you will see it rocket

Joel, iv got to ask you this, do you know how much a Blu-Ray driver costs? I doubt it, my uncle (who makes computers, has a Blu-Ray Burner on his compuet spent $945 on that alone... that would probbly be why it is so expencive, IMO I think pay£600-800 is hugely worth the price tag considering what is inside the computer.

BTW I cant link this information because i read it out of a magazine and as such i had to write it up by hand

$945 is the cost as a consumer, not for the manufacturer. (Although $945 is too expensive anyway. $700 is more like it)
The $200 to $300 is the estimated cost of how much it costs Sony to manufacture a Blu-ray drive; just the manufacturing costs, without all the consumer and resale markups and additions. I will say I have not verified if $200-$300 is actually accurate, I just know it certainly doesn't cost Sony $700 to make a BluRay drive.

erm not that i dissagree with you but 1. we are the consumer and 2. my uncle got his when they first came out and as such was willing to pay top dosh for.

Dead or alive does not qualify a AAA game.
I hate to break it to you, but it does. You gotta PLAY IT to realize it. Beleive it or not it's very fun, you just gotta like games to actually like it.

I played it, and I personally dont think it is up to much

[XxSephirothxX]

Actually, yeah, you are wrong. The 360's premium system was 400 dollars and the core system was 300 dollars. I don't know how you were the sales advisor for Toys 'R' Us and thought the 360 cost 200 dollars more than it did. I don't think your post is really any less fanboyish than Joel's is, as you're making nearly as many statements without backing them up with anything concrete.

[Carl the Llama]

Im am talking about the UK... in the UK the core system was £300 and the full was £400 and currently the £ - $ exchange rate is £1 = $1.8746 Exchange Rates so lets do the math here... £400 x 1.8746 = $749.84 so no, im not wrong.

[Dreddz]

The PS3 costs over $800 in the UK :eep:

[XxSephirothxX]

Im am talking about the UK... in the UK the core system was £300 and the full was £400 and currently the £ - $ exchange rate is £1 = $1.8746 Exchange Rates so lets do the math here... £400 x 1.8746 = $749.84 so no, im not wrong.

I thought I responded to this earlier, but apparently my internet lagged out. Anyway, here's a link that says the 360 was 279 pounds in the UK when it launched, which matches the amazon.co.uk list price. That works out to about 520 bucks US, which is still pretty expensive, being 120 dollars more than we have to pay for it. Still, that's a far cry from 750 bucks.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Those who cannot speak civilly to each other should refrain from posting altogether. If you think I might be refering to you, you're probably right. I can and will close this thread, and I can and will ban people who don't learn to stop attacking each other incessantly over a video game system that hasn't even been released yet.

[Carl the Llama]

Im am talking about the UK... in the UK the core system was £300 and the full was £400 and currently the £ - $ exchange rate is £1 = $1.8746 Exchange Rates so lets do the math here... £400 x 1.8746 = $749.84 so no, im not wrong.

I thought I responded to this earlier, but apparently my internet lagged out. Anyway, here's a link that says the 360 was 279 pounds in the UK when it launched, which matches the amazon.co.uk list price. That works out to about 520 bucks US, which is still pretty expensive, being 120 dollars more than we have to pay for it. Still, that's a far cry from 750 bucks.

Haveing sold 30 of the very top packages in one day, I can tell you that it was £400 on release reguardless of wethere amazon sold it for £279 or not lets think about it, you have a most wanted item in you shop that some retailers foolishly sell for £279 and they sell out after 2 hours then you have the rest of the world that actully want to make a decent amount of money from their purchases do you A. sell it for what the Internet sells them for or B. do you sell them for as much as the consumer is willing to pay for it... need I say more?

Just because you could have got it for as low as £279 doesnt mean that other places (such and Game, Gamestation, Toys R Us etc.) will not sell it for as much as humanly possible.

Edit: not being content with your statements I did a little research of my own at Xbox Official Site you will see the 360 package currently retailing at £279 also I did a little digging at the Toys R Us website and found this little bundle for the tasty price of £319 (which incedently is $598) I rest my case.

[fantasyjunkie]

Regardless, the price range is beyond what I can pay. I had to do a lot of fast talking just to get permission from my wife to pay $400 for my 360. No PS3 for me

[Jessweeee♪]

OMG I KNEW IT! I TOTALLY KNEW IT!!!
As soon as the rumored $500 console price came around, I said, No way, if that's what the console costs the games are going to be like $100!!!
I was never going to buy this due to the $500 price tag, but now....