Hah, my bad. I didn't see that other thread.

And I remembered my other question.

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You see, I've gotten Ultima, a few times. I just kill either Celia or Lede (at Limberry, when you fight them with Elmdor inside) and then weaken the other one so she'll run away and cast Ultima on me, from a distance. Then I kill her and the resulting Demon and steal all of Elmdor stuff, then lay him out nice and quick.

So I was wondering, do Ultima Demons ever cast the spell "Ultima"? And can you invite an Ultima Demon or an Archaic Demon? And if you get an Archaic Demon, might it have Ultima Demon offspring?

I just fought Zalbag at Murond and I noticed he is accompanied by two Archaics and one Ultima. I tried using a similar strategy on the Ultima Demon to force an Ultima out of him, but instead, he used this spell that started with the letter "U", but was much longer than Ultima, and it was devastating. Even killed Orlandu in one hit. And Ramza certainly didn't learned that spell, even though he was the only one who survived it. And Zalbag killed him on the next turn.

And finally, let's say that I did not get Ultima from Celia or Lede, and I did not get it from the Ultima Demon in Murond... Does that mean that I'm not getting it at all? Are there any other chances to get it? I wouldn't think so since you go to Orbonne right after Murond, but I thought maybe they show up randomly, sometimes, though I've never seen them.