Penances obliteration does less than 9999 damage without defence +20% and cheer i think. His immolation hits for about 30000hp without but it randomely hits for 99999hp. In fact for me it generally hit for 99999hp twice then only hit for 30000hp once before another two 99999hp attacks. Although auto pheonix isnt nessessary it seriously helps. I wouldnt bother with def+20%... i had 60000hp, used the item which lets you double your max hp so had 99999hp, used protect cheer and sentinal and still got k,o'd when he attacked for 99999hp. I'd recomend auto pheonix, auto haste, ribbon and break hp limit... break hp limit because immolation is a physical attack and when you survive it you score a free counter attack... over the course of the battle you get a hell of a lot of counter attacksOriginally Posted by Endless