I hate Lich with a passion usually reserved for the Black Plague

[Nerevarine]

hey wanna know how much difference between ne of the worst and one of the best parties in this game is. I beat Lich in one round w/ lvl 15 Fi/Rm/Th/Wm
like this

lich attacks ADOS(Wm)- 43 damage
KAHN(Rm) uses Fast on MAX(Fi)
LEE(Th) attacks lich- 3 hits! 63 dmg Critcal
ADOS uses HRM3 on lich- 212 dmg
MAX attacks lich- 5 hits! 146 dmg
Terminated

i should have got a vid of it. it was awesome

[Martyr]

Beating Lich at lv 15 with a Fasted Knight and Harm 3 is about as impressive as a cold hamburger on a half rat eaten bun.

You should've been at lv 11-13 anyway.

Tell me about how you beat Kary at lv. 15 with that party. And, just for kicks, don't use the Ice Sword.

Don't cry. Your Thief can run. You can get to Kary from there at lv. 15. I guarantee it.

[Nerevarine]

key words:IN ONE ROUND!!!!!!!!!

i wasnt tryin to be all that impressive i just thought it was cool cuz i never have done it before. usually lich is a pain in my ass.

i have this thing where i have to kill anything that moves. im gonna be at higher levels cuz of this and it helps me have more gold for the expensive spells soon to come.

[Martyr]

Yeah. Especially because once you get the airship, there's, like, no monsters at all who give big cash. And as far as treasure chests with upwards of 10000 gold per dungeon... Bfff. None.

Seriously, killing Lich in one round... Easy. You could have used Fire3 instead of fast and got the same results. Except that the Thief wouldn't have had to attack after

Lich Ice2 150 dmg each
Harm 175
Fire 175
Fighter 106

And it's done. I've never spent over 2 battles on Lich. 1 is about right, especially after lv 13.

And I guarantee you that killing everything that moves between now and Kary won't net you more than 15000, if that, and then you can make that much money by selling the Flame Armor or Ice Armor, whichever you prefer, because the Ninja can only wear one or the other, and if you're at lv. 15, your Fighter BETTER have the Steel Armor by now, or else you're just wasting money.

[Nerevarine]

i already used my one

alright bro you play the way you do and ill play mine deal?

i just thought is was cool cuz it has never happened to me even in a playthrough when i was overleveled to like 18/19 cuz my lil bro would play it and do nothin but fight monsters. Figured i could share it and not be given a bunch of grief. Boy was i wrong

[Martyr]

i already used my one

alright bro you play the way you do and ill play mine deal?

i just thought is was cool cuz it has never happened to me even in a playthrough when i was overleveled to like 18/19 cuz my lil bro would play it and do nothin but fight monsters. Figured i could share it and not be given a bunch of grief. Boy was i wrong

Yeah you were wrong!
You gotta learn that internet forums are filled with grief, and nothing the hell else!

But dang it, you sound all whiny, like I should be inclined to apologize. I'm not going to do it this time. This post transaction could've run a lot smoother, but I think it's you, not me. So that's that.

EDIT: Check out how we destroyed this thread.

[Lawr]

Lol. On the NES I was level 19 on Lich.
I killed him in one attack with my Fighter.

[Nerevarine]

i wasnt really whining but ya.

I took your suggestion and tried to beat Kary at 15 without the ice sword. it wasnt happenin- about 13 tries if i counted right

then i did use my ice sword and she was done in like four rounds. only tried twice she was super easy the second time. idk this game is weird like that sometimes.

[Nerevarine]

Any way,

dark lady how is that low level white mage challenge goin for ya. i never made it past the marsh cave when i tried and that wasnt low level

[Jigsaw]

Man you guys are crazy with all your challenges! This game is hard with just four people!

[DarkLadyNyara]

Any way,

dark lady how is that low level white mage challenge goin for ya. i never made it past the marsh cave when i tried and that wasnt low level

I have just gotten to the Chaos shrine(past) and am currently level 23.

[Nerevarine]

23 so you dont even have a fade spell yet. do you?

idk exactly when all the spells are given points.

[Martyr]

Level 23 fighting ONLY the monsters that need to be fought?

That's Garland, Pirates, Wizards, Astos, Vampire, Lich, Kary, Ice Cave Encounter (twice), Eye (Assuming you can't run), Kraken, Cube Encounter, Blue Dragon, Tiamat, the 4 Fiends revisited 1 XP each, and then Chaos.

And you're up to 23?

Nerevarine: WM Challenge. She can't learn Fade at lv 99.

[DarkLadyNyara]

That's Garland, Pirates, Wizards, Astos, Vampire, Lich, Kary, Ice Cave Encounter (twice), Eye (Assuming you can't run), Kraken, Cube Encounter, Blue Dragon, Tiamat, the 4 Fiends revisited 1 XP each, and then Chaos

This was just entering the Chaos shrine, so I haven't done the fiends. (And they give more than one exp.- at least in this version they do.) I ran from the Ice cave and Cube encounters, and you forgot the Dracozombie in the Citadel of Trials.

And you're up to 23?

Remember, the level caps are higher on this version. Also, DoS requires less experience to level than the NES. So I'm at a much higher level than I'd be at doing the same challenge on the NES.

[Martyr]

Oh, I thought you weren't class changing