Things you'd never be able to find out in the game itself...

[ljkkjlcm9]

In Star Tropics, at one point you have to get a certain piece of paper wet to reveal a "letter" to get the access code to be able to do something in the game. I'm not sure if the paper was in the instruction booklet or just in the box, but either way, never buy this game without everything. And if you have a rom of it, you HAVE to look it up somewhere. I just remember getting to that and being like... are you serious? Nothing in the game could tell you that passcode, so you'd basically be screwed.

THE JACKEL

[Shoeberto]

Killer7, the battle with the two dead Japanese businessman. I don't know how they expected people to just figure out the pattern.

[Lindy]

The scene beforehand hints at the whole tie thing.

Anyway, it makes about as much sense as the story in general.

[Zeromus_X]

Killer7, the battle with the two dead Japanese businessman. I don't know how they expected people to just figure out the pattern.

Oh UGH.

[Roto13]

Killer7, the battle with the two dead Japanese businessman. I don't know how they expected people to just figure out the pattern.

Oh UGH.

Ah, yeah, the tie thing. That took... trial and error. Though it's something you figure out once you start blasting randomly. :P

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Oh, come on.

Figuring out Meryl's codec number on MGS1 was something which was literally IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN THE GAME ITSELF.

It doesn't count if the game tells you exactly where you can find it, though.

[Roto13]

Oh, come on.

Figuring out Meryl's codec number on MGS1 was something which was literally IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN THE GAME ITSELF.

It doesn't count if the game tells you exactly where you can find it, though.

You know, even if you don't have the case, it's easy enough (if not time-consuming) to just go through all of the frequencies systematically.

[Old Manus]

It doesn't help that Baker gives you a CD before he dies either, making you (me) think it was something to do with that.

[fantasyjunkie]

Oh, come on.

Figuring out Meryl's codec number on MGS1 was something which was literally IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND IN THE GAME ITSELF.

I agree.

It took me smurfing forever to figure that one out!

[Captain Maxx Power]

Pretty much every MMORPG out there right now. Without hand-holding tutoring from another player attempting to learn the world on your own is like giving a newborn child and knife and then throwing it into a pool full of sharks and expecting it to come out alive.

Also, it's the deep end.

[Bunny]

Getting all 108 characters in the Suikoden series is pretty much impossible without previous knowledge on the location and process of each one. Tried and true.

[Lindy]

Pretty much every MMORPG out there right now. Without hand-holding tutoring from another player attempting to learn the world on your own is like giving a newborn child and knife and then throwing it into a pool full of sharks and expecting it to come out alive.

Also, it's the deep end.

Because there are never first time players of MMORPGs, people are BORN playing them, duh.

[Jowy]

Acquiring two Dragon Claws from the Presenter fight in FFVI.

[Ender]

The Zelda games have been dumbed down quite a bit since the 8-bit days. The dungeon walls and overworld rock walls that could be bombed to reveal passages in the original Legend of Zelda were impossible to find yourself except for trial and error or by accident. Nowadays they make the bomb-able walls fairly, if not completely, obvious.

[Sefie1999AD]

Most side quests in FFs, pretty much. For example, how on earth would you know that you get something for dodging 200 thunderbolts if nobody told you that? I don't think anyone would figure that out with trial and error, either. I mean, who goes to the Thunder Plains and decides to dodge 200 bolts just in case you'd get something for doing that?

This one is the winner, though: to defeat your shadow in the 2nd last level in the original Prince of Persia, you need to lower your sword, so that shadow will also lower it. Then you need to touch the shadow to merge with it. After that, you need to go to the left, and there's a huge bottomless looking pit that you can't cross. However, just keep walking to the pit, and you'll encounter some invisible tiles that will take you to the next level. Getting the power of the flame and turning into the flame figure in Prince of Persia 2 is pretty much just as hard to know without anyone telling you that.

Tifa's limit break on the piano in FF7 was pretty ridiculous, even though if you play the tune the right way you realize that it's actually the main theme of FF7.

When Cloud and others were visiting Nibelheim in the flashback (in Kalm), you can go to Tifa's room and play the piano there. Cloud will then play the Highwind melody, so that's how you'll know which song you can play on the piano.