why cant we learn to love this game?

[Markus. D]

It's because people are narrow minded and don't understand the concept of an MMO. They shouldn't have given it a number, and just called it Final Fantasy Online, for this reason.

I agree with this. However, sticking a number on it probably boosted sales. They wanted to give people a reason to feel the 'need' to play it and add it to their collection.

As to Tsukasa, I seem to remember you having a BLM that you leveled to 32 tha you claim suffered a rollback to 26 so you deleted it and started over. You tend to start over or start new characters fairly often. I'm not saying that it's necessarily wrong if leveling 1-30 multiple times pleases you, but I don't think a majority of players enjoy that.

Miriel is also an exception. She's been playing for quite a while and I believe her highest charcter is in the 40s. And that's fine for you guys.

But if you are going to ask why people dislike the game, it's because it's not a casual player friendly game. Not everyone is gonna like a game like FFXI that's offers so little to casuals. The game is seriously flawed in the beginning. in terms of playability. It drives people away.

When you start the game nothing seems rewarding. Money is comparitively difficult to make. Quests don't have worthwhile rewards. You can scarcely do any missions on your own and don't get much story from the early ones. Travel takes a damn long time early on. It's hard to get your friends on playing with you if you are just starting.


I'll agree that people are morons for critcizing the game without any real experience with it though. Many people only play for a month or don't play at all and complain about various aspects of the game that they know nothing about.

But what if you were on that bridge at the beginning of FFX fighting Sinscales and said, "Man this game sucks. The story is shallow and there's not any good magic... I'm quitting." That would be ridiculous. However, in FFXI you nearly have to play a year before you can get much story or really see the potential of things.

That's partially the fault of quick-to-judge players, but also it's the flaw of design. The game makes it hard to keep playing and there's more to make people quit in the early game than there is to keep them playing. Most people who are used to finishing an FF game in a week or so aren't gonna be pleased with a game where a week of slaving away might only get you to level 20.

Keep in mind that the original question is essentially "why don't people like this game" to which I've given many answers. Agree with them or not, these are real answers from people I know and observations I've made.

very valid points there.

As for the BLM, that there was "created" by Briant, it “did” exist; he decided to go into me EoFF account (he saw me on earlier, snuck on while I was making lunch for Kassidy (his wife) made the Taru on FFXI, etc to about level... 8 or something while I was at the shops getting the ingredients, In around the 4 hours I was gone for).
Well, him going home that day, and knowing me, I guess he found it pretty easy to figure out the password and continued the charade, I asked him kindly, he agreed to stop only if I stopped talking about it all the time, as he himself thought it was nothing special (what a surprise xS).

[No.78]

People hate it cos it's not like the rest and costs money. Basically people with closed minds... I think that if you don't like something you shouldn't go on about it, and shun those who do like it. You should just say "I don't like it" and then thats that, thats what I do with stuff I don't like... And if the person does like it and reacts badly to it, then that too is bad.

I THINK that's relevant to the topic...

[Raebus]

So those who can't afford to pay the monthly payments = Close minded?

Edit: Those who don't work, students, and they can't rely on parents.

[Darius]

This thread should end after Yeargdribble's post. It covers pretty much everything and not much more can be said. My opinion is that any other posts on this subject will just be restatements of whats already been said. *shrugs*

On that note, my brother said the same thing about the story. He asked if the game was fun and I said I have tons of fun. Then he said, "but it has no story to it." I corrected him telling him there was a story and yada yada. I alos told him he wouldnt like the game. Hes one of those FF players that likes to beat the game in a week or 2 and MAYBE max some things out. Once he beats a FF he usually doesnt go back to max things out or anything. Considering it takes a very long time to get into the story of FFXI I told him hed be better off just playing FFXII, which he is and loves it.

[Rostum]

1. It's not hard to get a job as a student, believe me, I had a few while studying.

2. I never said they were closed minded due to it having a monthly fee.

3. Yearg summed some things up fairly well.

[Goldenboko]

1. It's not hard to get a job as a student, believe me, I had a few while studying.

It is when your under the age where anyone will employ you.

[Fuego]

I wonder if anyone (underage) in this forum has ever thought about mowin' lawns or walkin' a neighbours dog or haggle'n some old lady down the block to pay you to sweep out her drive durin' the autum ...

it's not as difficult to earn money (as you might believe) ... regardless of age ... it just boils down to how lazy the person needing the $$$ is and/or how badly they want the money or to play FFXI ...

[Rostum]

1. It's not hard to get a job as a student, believe me, I had a few while studying.

It is when your under the age where anyone will employ you.

Even so, people who can afford to get a job and all, do make such judgements on the game. Also, I really don't like playing with many kids under the age of 15, all my experiences with them have ended up in a real mess. (i.e. lying, backstabbing, immature, etc)

[Avarice-ness]

I've never played FFXI, sir. ;D

haha out of all the ff games that one sucked the most it didint sell as well as the other ff games and it was only online what the . . . . .i wanted to play it but i was like ew im not playing this online to dumb i didint even add it to my collection it was not worth it at allll

ps: (off-topic) I wonder if FFXI has made more money then any other FF game ;3?


psps: I'm not to sure what the topic is yet ._.

I bought it but never paid for monthly after that little trial thing. I didn't like how the body's were poorly shaped and I had no idea what I was suppose to do because of the lack of an intro that goes "YOU ARE HERE-- YOU WANT TO BE HERE, GO HERE" so I got bored, realized I had one really bad weapon no money, and that the monsters hardly gave me anything. I'd be okay if the game was like 20$ and then free monthly payments, other than that, I don't plan on reinstalling it into my computer ever ever again.

[Crossblades]

I'm pretty sure everyone who posts in this particular forum has a fondness for the game. So the question, "why cant we learn to love to love this game" is an odd thing to ask this group of posters. If we didn't enjoy the game, we wouldn't play it.

I personally do love the game, it's one of my favoritest Final Fantasy games ever.

If you're asking why OTHER people don't love this game, it's because they've never played it. Or they have played it and they just didn't like it all that much. And that's fine. The only annoying thing is when people bash FFXI only because they themselves couldn't find a way to play it and they're bitter about that.

Amen

FF XI is a wonderful game. It's not my favorite, but I still like this game.

[XandrewX]

Needs to pay to play doesn't really excites me...

[Mirage]

Too bad then. The monthly fee is equivalent to what most people in the western world is able to earn in an hour or two.

[No.78]

So those who can't afford to pay the monthly payments = Close minded?

Edit: Those who don't work, students, and they can't rely on parents.

wtf I didnt even say that. I said people who DONT LIKE IT, not people who havent played it. Stop arguing for the sake of it

[Miriel]

So those who can't afford to pay the monthly payments = Close minded?

Edit: Those who don't work, students, and they can't rely on parents.

People in that sort of situation where money is incredibly tight should not even be thinking about playing games and spending money on games if their finances aren't all there. If a person can't afford $12 a month (roughly 2 meals at McDonald's) than very obviously, games should not even be a concern to them since it seems that they have more than enough on their plate without adding a MMORPG to the mix.

[Fuego]

I wonder if anyone (underage) in this forum has ever thought about mowin' lawns or walkin' a neighbours dog or haggle'n some old lady down the block to pay you to sweep out her drive durin' the autum ...

it's not as difficult to earn money (as you might believe) ... regardless of age ... it just boils down to how lazy the person needing the $$$ is and/or how badly they want the money or to play FFXI ...

If this is too hard for you to do ... please please please DO NOT BUY AND PLAY FFXI !!!!

If you choose not to earn money because you're too lazy or whatever then that doesn't speak to your credit. and knowing that i wouldn't want to game with you anyway.

And paying a fee IMO is the best thing that happen'd to FFXI because it weeds out alot of juvenile people ... and i mean that one way ...
People who have no maturity.