And for the record, vegetarian and vegan meals = very yum.
And for the record, vegetarian and vegan meals = very yum.
I generally don't eat much in the way of meat. I'm not a complete veggetarian yet however when me and Tinker's move in together to make things cheaper and more easier on her I will make the full transition to veggetarian food. I eat fish as does Tinker's which is where most of the protein comes from in my diet. As for my perspective of the way animals for meat are raised I prefer the free range organic or "grass fed" meat but in all honesty that stuff can cost up to TRIPLE (I work in a major UK supermarket company so see this all the time) the price of normal "mass farmed" produce. It's a lot like the fur trade and stuff at times, I don't mind the farming and killing of animals for their hide/meat as long as every part of the beast can be used. For example, a cow is eaten as beef, a cow's hide is leather and therefore a valuble material in clothing and shoe making, a cow's bones can be given to dogs to chew on and they gain health through the marrow within them. Everything can and is generally used in my eyes we should be more like the french in this respect you can kill anything you like as long as every part of the animal is used for something (except the wording in french law is you can hunt anything as long as you are hunting it to be food on your table).
I edited my response,Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
but basically my point was that
Vegetarian... not vegetarian...
I think its more important to understand the basis of our arguements are completely reliant on our ability to have these choices.
My major concern is with the moral battle that occurs. I just want to make it clear that I don't feel its proper to say anyone is a better person based on consumption choices.
Boldly go.
No, but one choice can be better suited for the individual and society over the other. I don't think any sane person is arguing that particular consumption habits entail moral superiority.
You seem to be making some interesting assumptions.
EDIT: In response to Ashley.
Schlup: What am I assuming?
Yams: I agree.
Boldly go.
I don't know, but you're making weird comments that makes me assume that you're assuming weird things that I don't know what you're thinking.
Well rest assured dear Panda
I have no idea what you're thinking either.
I just wanted to comment on the morality battles that occur....
not necessarily in respons to any one post in particular but in general.
Boldly go.
And I'll probably kill them cruelly.
Har har, we are so amused.
Someone always posts that whenever we have this thread.
You'd think it was merely to be funny, it's not.
I have an actual list of people who don't eat meat so I eat their share.
Well then I hope whenever those people see you they punch you square in the face.
Well, if they weren't too scared to try, I'd welcome the attempt. Maybe they could put up a decent fight too.
I'm not a vegetarian. I wouldn't be physically able to at this point, either. My doctor has me on a strict low-fiber diet for a while, so the only vegetable that I really like that I can eat as much as I want of right now is green beans.
I agree with Unne. Arguments concerning whether eating meat is good or not comes down to whether the thought of killing animals for food is okay with you or not. Other arguments against eating meat are irrationally selective. Yes, it takes up more space - so does a bunch of other things. Yes, it costs more - so does a bunch of other things you do (anyone drive a car when you could otherwise walk/bike/carpool/public transportation? That wastes a bunch more than eating a burger over salad). Same with the enviromental issue.
Some of the animals probably suffer. So does wildlife being shot for food, and most vegetarians in this thread seem okay with animals just being killed for food. Hell, animals suffer from farming, too. It's the amount of suffering one is willing to accept which becomes the deciding factor, and it is completely arbitrary. I'm all for limiting any suffering where ever reasonably possible, but an animal's brief suffering to produce food makes me lose less sleep than starving Africans, which makes me lose none.
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