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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack View Post
    ...wouldn't it be logical that not eating people so as not to contribute to their suffering isn't any better than not caring and eating them?
    No, because in order to provide a logical argument it must first be grounded within practical reality. Dreaming up radical scenarios in order to prove a point against legitimate logic, i.e. eating vegetables does not make you morally superior and vice versa (in fact the moral question is off the table), is a waste of time and contributes nothing to the debate.

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    Well I've just always wanted to taste grilled baby so there's that.

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    Schlup: I welcome "statements outside of the realm of debate."
    Under the circumstance that they're educated about the dialog they're adressing and understand it as opposed to reacting in an accusatory and ignorant manner.

    EDIT: Ehn I don't want to talk about cannibalism anymore.
    Last edited by Chemical; 11-11-2006 at 08:17 AM.

    Boldly go.

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    ohhh no dats no good u need meat!!!! full of iron

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    I hope by "your argument" you don't mean my argument. I was just translating.

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    I'm not a vegetarian because I think meat is YUM.

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    One of my friends pointed out that he was a vegetarian due to Hinduism once so I snuck some sausage under all the other crap on his pizza.

    It’s funny because I totally <!--f***ed-->[leeza]*snip*[/leeza] up his karma.

    [leeza]Do not go around the filters. ~ Leeza[/leeza]

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    My favorite argument of all. xP

    EDIT: In response to Miriel. Nasarian is just a jerk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burtsplurt View Post
    The people I do feel superior to are the people who justify meat-eating to themselves (much in the same way that I justify eating fish to myself). The people who have raised the question with themselves. They obviously have some idea that keeping animals in a restricted environment and then killing them is Not A Good Thing, but then they choose to ignore it. I don't think that's right.
    I can respect this at the personal level, but beyond that, no. I know what kind of conditions some animals live in and how they're killed, and I believe that to be "not a good thing", but I don't know if it's wrong because I'm honestly not well enough educated in the subject. However, I still choose to eat meat despite this knowledge and enjoy it. By your standards that makes you a better person than me, at least in some regard, but universally it doesn't. If I was a thief or a murderer then you would be, but here there's really no basis for such an argument.

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    So you think that feeling something is wrong but choosing continuing to contibute to it without any attempt to help the problem doesn't make you suck? Even a little?

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    I don't eat vast quantities of meat, so eating less would make me unhappy. I value my happiness and the happiness of other people over the well-being of a non-human animal.

    I already do suck. A little more won't hurt.

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    Alright, just as long as you admit you suck a little.

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    Not as much as you, though.

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    Well that's just 'cause I'm fat. But whatyagonnado.

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    I'd be very wary of eating any form of meat that came from America, myself. Just because of some documentaries I've seen on the way animals are treated over there.

    But, inhumane practices happen all over the globe.

    I think it's important for people to know where there meat comes from, otherwise it's just ignorance. I'm happy to eat meat, because I know where mine comes from and I know that where I am we have good animal welfare standards.

    But, just because I like meat, doesn't mean I'll just eat anything.

    I wonder sometimes, why people don't fork out a few extra dollars for free-range eggs or things like that.

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