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    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain View Post
    On a side note, there is a long-held belief in some circles that there are really only 7 story 'types' and everything subsequently is an off-shoot of that with different characters, settings, etc. I'm not a big believer in this, but it might help explain why some people feel like they're seeing the same story over and over again.
    Mind sharing what those are?

    I would assume that one would be a Coming of Age story, which pretty much sums up HP

    Harry Potter is like Star Wars in that the hero doesn't get the girl, but the secondary hero does. And I hate that in both of them >:[

    I did feel that book six was wildly more like a Final Fantasy or RPGs in general, than any of the ones before it (a mystic quest to find the things that comprise Voldemort and will allow you to kill him? Hello looking for parts of Dracula's body in Simon's Quest!) maybe that's why it's one of my favorites. It read like a great big fanfic. Or maybe that was book five. I thought that about one of them anyways. I thought it was book six though;o;o;o;;;;;;;;

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    Harry Potter is like Star Wars in that the hero doesn't get the girl, but the secondary hero does. And I hate that in both of them >:[
    Would you rather see Luke bone his twin sister? :P

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    "Mind sharing what those are?"

    If I recall correctly:

    'Overcoming the Monster'
    'Rags To Riches'
    'Quest'
    'Voyage And Return'
    'Comedy'
    'Tragedy'
    'Rebirth'

    It's all from some overwrought book I had to read several years ago, but I really don't believe in it and frankly, wouldn't put much stock in it either as it's just one person's opinion that garnered some attention, but is by no means a universal truth.

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    how can hp be realted to starwars?its not as if the wands are representing lightsabers is it?

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    I think if Heromine(sp) is such an obscenely great student/wizard/witch, she's not owning as much as she should, or to the least live up to what the book made her seem. I'd send her to kill things over Harry anyday, only 'cause of her hipe.

    The reason harry has hipe is because he survived, and he's just really good at not dying. His magic skills are kind of remedial though, like special ed magic 101.

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    Miriel basically said everything needed to be said.

    Anyways, I somewhat disagree about the movies though, more as in the first two or three were decent and close to thge books, while the fourth and somewhat the third, started to cut a lot out. I know you cannot make like a six hour movie, but still I only watch the movie because of my love for the books. I would watch the movies if they were longer but included more from the novels. I know a lot of people think three hour movies are pushing it, but if the movie is good enough I would watch it from start to finish, no matter how long it is.


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    Harry's mom (mum) died for him and that's the only reason Harry was left alive
    This is quite literally the most pathetic explanation to why he is still alive. If you were told you cheated death because your mother died for you would you be satisfied enough with the sense that made? I can't believe how many people seem to be content with this joke of an explanation
    And what about this Avada Kedavra curse that finished Diggory off? How are we to take Voldemort seriously if he doesn't have the balls to use the same thing on Potter
    ...Geddit?

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    First of all, Voldemort DOES use the Aveda Kevadra on Harry, which causes the Priori Incantatem. (For full details READ THE DAMN BOOK!)

    Second of all, it's not that his Mom gave her life for Harry, and Voldemort just went "Meh! That's enough bloodshed for today!" It's that since she gave her life for him, it offered some protection, which deflected the Aveda Kevadra. While the effect seems a little contrived, as was mentioned before, it's no more difficult a pill to swallow that most Final Fantasy plots.

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    I think one of the series charms is that, up to this point, Harry has had to depend on dues ex machina ways of surviving Voldemort...which is something that Harry is very aware of. I doubt that Harry will ever be as powerful as Voldemort, even at the end, but he has other forces working for him, like the love of his friends and family. Voldemort doesn't understand this, and that is really Harry's only edge, even though it is a powerful one.

    Like most fantasy, Harry Potter works best when you don't overthink everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiletype View Post
    Harry's mom (mum) died for him and that's the only reason Harry was left alive
    This is quite literally the most pathetic explanation to why he is still alive. If you were told you cheated death because your mother died for you would you be satisfied enough with the sense that made? I can't believe how many people seem to be content with this joke of an explanation
    And what about this Avada Kedavra curse that finished Diggory off? How are we to take Voldemort seriously if he doesn't have the balls to use the same thing on Potter
    It's a magical world where loves grants eternal protection.

    And Voldy DID use the Killing Curse on Harry (which explains the green light and that scar, also don't forget the Priori Incantatem) which combined with THE POWER OF LOVE deflected the curse. Honestly, you......do NOT read the books, don't you? If you don't, don't just simply bash a masterpiece for Jesus' sake. R34D 73H B00K F0R 1N D3P7H 3><PL4N4710N!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiletype View Post
    Harry's mom (mum) died for him and that's the only reason Harry was left alive
    This is quite literally the most pathetic explanation to why he is still alive. If you were told you cheated death because your mother died for you would you be satisfied enough with the sense that made? I can't believe how many people seem to be content with this joke of an explanation
    And what about this Avada Kedavra curse that finished Diggory off? How are we to take Voldemort seriously if he doesn't have the balls to use the same thing on Potter
    It was established very early on that in Harrypotterland, love was the greatest power. It may be cheesy, but that's how it is in the magical land of witchcraft and wizardry. So it makes SENSE that Harry's life was saved by his mothers love and the sacrifice she made because of her love for Harry. I don't understand how that's a pathetic explaination. It makes perfect sense to me, even if it is really ooey gooey cheesy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobiletype View Post
    http://www.themovieblog.com/archives...s_rip_off.html

    I've been thinking this for such a long time. Mrs Rowling seems to have used the same general plot as the last three episodes of Star Wars and hasn't even done a good job of hiding it. Wizards turning to the Dark Arts, tell me I heard that concept before. Everything was completely fine and dandy until she actually found out Luke and Vader only had two battles and that is when she had to stretch her own mind and came up with the crap that rounded off the Order of the Phoenix.

    Another point to make is that Harry Potter isn't making much sense logically. Are we to believe some inexperienced teenage kid can take out the supposedly most powerful and evilest wizard using his silly little elementary spells?

    "Here's one I learnt in first grade"
    "Ow that hurt, now it's my turn, I've been practising Dark Arts for many a year here's the best I can come up with, a stupid spell that will only succeed in giving you a scar"
    Duh
    Give us a little more credit Mrs Rowling
    If I was Voldemort and God help me one day I won't be I would have done him in, in one feel swoop as soon as I got the chance

    Anyways, Harry Potter is the same film told over and over again each time with new charcaters, new villains, new magical crappy items that have no use in future films (i.e. Philiosopher's Stone), a few good ideas but nothing more to beat it's inspiration that was less than half it's size

    Opinions?

    Yeah, so what, you don't like Harry Potter. So you've made your point. But I don't see why your common sense should turn around others thoughts on books or anything else for that matter. I'd like to see you come out with something as good as Harry Potter.

    Come one mate, it's a book, it's not real. So just accept it or just don't read it. It's no use blurting it all out for the world to know.

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    Well we all know how this one ends Harry kills Voldemort in an epic duel but the concept of using wands instead of light sabers surpasses me...

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