Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post

Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
asking "What is art?" like there's some great insight in most of the junk that people that ask that put out is one of the most stuck up and snobby things in the world, I think, really. But hey, that's just me. I don't mind being blind and uncultured.

Also, see above post.
Artists aren't the only people who should ask this question. What we consider art says a lot about our culture. Sure it may be junk, but I would never call it snobby. Isn't it snobby to say its snobby? It's one thing to say you hate it... its another thing to accuse me (and you are accusing me and fellow Fine Arts individuals with elitism) without considering the possibility that I'm just another person with a degree and knowledge that I like to share with others for their contemplation. I don't feel any different from an Engineer who uses his knowledge to build a bridge... my bridge is just a philosophical/cultural/conceptual one with ideas instead of support beams.

Conclusion. It's hurtful to call us Art freaks snobs because we offer our educational experience.

So stop.
You asked what we thought, and I told you, based on what has been my experience with the people who have generally done and said these sorts of things.

I think that art should be primarily pleasing to look at, and not psychological or philosophical mind games. You're free to offer your experience in attempt to make people think, but I don't think it's art, and I think that it pretty much usually is elitism to say that it is. Perhaps you are different, I don't know, no. From what I've seen of your other posts, you do seem to have a tinge of elitism to you, but so do I, and perhaps your motives are pure in this regard. Howeve, the majority of what I've seen that has stemmed from this man's work, apparently, is an attempt to broaden the boundaries of what may be called art for that specific purpose only.

and now I think I've talked myself in a circle, so I'll stop xD