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    What exactly is Eden? Is it alive? Is it machine? And what exactly does eternal breath do? Everytime I watch this I try and figure out what in the world is going on and I still scratch my head every time.

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    Eden is a Garden.

    Square thought they were clever.

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    Eden is atah in Al Bhed, and atah is a German animal rights movement.

    I don't know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by THEORIES
    Quote Originally Posted by BG-57

    The painting puzzle in Ultimecia's castle refers to Diablos. The solution involves a Messenger and Diablos' attack is called Dark Messenger. If the garden that the puzzle refers to is Eden, then Diablos may represent the devil that disguised itself a serpent and corrupted man. Quite an appropriate theme for Ultimecia.
    Regarding the paintings, this is what i interpret the last time in some older threads.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknowns
    INTERVIGILIUM (Sleep) - The sleep magic
    VIVIDARIUM (Garden) - The Garden of SeeD
    VIATOR (Messenger) - Diablo's dark messenger attack

    Big Picture: In A Garden Sleeps A Messenger:

    Diablos sleeps inside the magical lamp which is given in Balamb garden,

    Anyone can have their interpretatons of their own like future Esthar having his but since there is nothing much to verify it, I can't say much about those pictures only that it make the boss appear that's all.
    I wonder if anyone have another interpretations wish to share.

    Quote Originally Posted by BG-57
    The GF Eden is a Garden. The evidence is that she looks like an organic version of a Garden. Note the upper disc. Also the garden of Eden was the GF's namesake
    Here is something I found out about Eden(for references):


    The Garden of Eden story recounts how God created Adam and Eve, commanded them not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and how they were expelled from the garden after they disobeyed Him, having been tempted by a serpent, and ate the fruit. As part of the Expulsion, cherubim and a flaming sword were stationed at the entrance to the garden, in order to prevent man from returning and eating from the Tree of Life.
    Could the sword mean the sword wielding Ultima weapon that is guarding Eden itself.


    Others point out that the world of Eden's time was destroyed during Noah's Flood and it is therefore impossible to place the Garden anywhere in post-flood geography. There is also an attempt to tie this with the mystical sunken land of Atlantis.
    If it is flood so it could possible be sunken and you find Eden deep within the sea with a sword wielding monster guarding/having it.
    Just take that as references and not take it too seriously.
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    That was a good discussion thread. And I still subscribe to the 'Garden of Eden' theory.

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    Eden is a Guardian Force, and as such, only has what meaning you give to it.

    One might as well ask "What is Carbuncle" for the useful responses.

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    Carbuncle is a carbuncle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merriam Webster
    1 a obsolete : any of several red precious stones b : the garnet cut cabochon
    Check out his forehead. Also, wasn't Carbuncle called Garnet in . . one of the snes ones? I thought it was:O Rubies are definitely red, though, so ruby light!

    Most of the GFs are things anyways. Ifrit is a djinn, siren is a siren(lorelai?)(lol odysseus), phoenix is a phoenix, bahamut is a great big ol' flying lizard, cerberus is a three-headed HELLDOG, Leviathan is a great big ol' water lizard, Quezacotl is totally Incan, Shiva is Hindu, Minotaur is Greek no? It was in a batman cartoon and freaked me out. Diablos *pretends* he's the devil, but we all know he isn't. tonberry and cactuar and possibly doomtrain are from earlier ffs.

    It just leaves Alexander and Eden really. Maybe sacred, I dunno Man I would love to know what was up with a robot angel.

    I think Eden is a garden. She roughly resembles the shape of a Garden, at least. And there is a bunch of other garden symbology in the game (understandably) so it makes sense. I mean what would they have called her otherwise, "Hanging in Babylon"?

    "yeah I need to shop at the petstore and get some Amnesia greens for Hanging in Babylon. She totally don't need all those hp abilities"

    If religious mythology doesn't cut it for you in ff8, check out The Solomon Ring

    So is doomtrain a demon then, or an animalxD

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    Eden is Ultimecia.

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    PM Future Esthar
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    The Garden of Eden story recounts how God created Adam and Eve, commanded them not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, and how they were expelled from the garden after they disobeyed Him, having been tempted by a serpent, and ate the fruit. As part of the Expulsion, cherubim and a flaming sword were stationed at the entrance to the garden, in order to prevent man from returning and eating from the Tree of Life.

    Could the sword mean the sword wielding Ultima weapon that is guarding Eden itself.

    Others point out that the world of Eden's time was destroyed during Noah's Flood and it is therefore impossible to place the Garden anywhere in post-flood geography. There is also an attempt to tie this with the mystical sunken land of Atlantis.
    If it is flood so it could possible be sunken and you find Eden deep within the sea with a sword wielding monster guarding/having it.
    That's really interesting!!!

    I always wondered what Eden was...

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    Quezacotl is totally Incan, Shiva is Hindu,
    No, and No. Quetzy is Mayan, though it's understandable, and Shiva (Shiuwah) is most likely based on a European frost goddess

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    I found out somewhere that it was the Garden of the Future...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze View Post
    Quezacotl is totally Incan, Shiva is Hindu,
    No, and No. Quetzy is Mayan, though it's understandable, and Shiva (Shiuwah) is most likely based on a European frost goddess
    There is a Hindu God* called Shiva but it is pronounced "Shee-Vah" and the FF Shiva is "SHIH - VAH" (Shiver). So it's not the same thing.







    *I think it's a God, but I don't know much about Hindu.

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    when i watch the eden summoning sequence it seems that edens blasting the monsters into a black hole or and imploding sun or something crazy like that. its been a while since i've seen it though.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4
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