As well as FFIII, FFV, FFVI, and FFIX.Originally Posted by Dell
As well as FFIII, FFV, FFVI, and FFIX.
I thought FFIX have different opening song.As well as FFIII, FFV, FFVI, and FFIX.
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The only games prior to FFXII that actually "open" with that song are FFI, FFIII, and FFIV. But it's still present in the rest of the games mentioned.
This is, of course, if you're talking about Prologue. If you're talking about Prelude, that's been in FFI through FFX, although FFVIII only features a few notes from it during its ending credits and Game Over screen, and FFX was cursed with a crappy electronic remix version.
Thanks for telling.
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To be honest, I do feel that the game drags on a bit at times. This is probably because I've been busy with other things than FFXII, and when I get stuck on a boss or I'm dirt poor and don't feel like grinding for an hour it takes away all the exaltation of a brand new adventure and replaces it with an unease that maybe I won't like this game so much after all. That's not to say that the battles aren't fun and that this game isn't revolutionary as far as the FF series goes, it's just kinda dragging along. Thankfully, there is alot to look forward to regarding the development of the story, but I just wish it wouldn't take such a long time to do so.
Maybe I'm just tired right now, but Final Fantasy IV isn't a Final Fantasy now? What's going on here? O_o
Everyone is hooked on their first Final Fantasy, because they never know what Final Fantasy is.
I liked this game a lot. I'd put it pretty high up in the list because it had a significant amount of development time and utilized a different art direction than some of the other Final Fantasy games.
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eh.. it's a great game.... doesn't have the same feel as the old FF's... not quite as exciting... and it's definitely not as good of story.
I find FF 12 to be too different to be singularly best, no matter how good it may be. But despite that so far I am only entertained by it, it's interesting and well-directed but is so far not the life-shaking thing some other FFs were. FF7, though it perhaps wasn't as complete as Tactics or 6, got away with its memorable cool feel. Tactics and 6, for me, were just purely beautiful.
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draw me into the disco scene
lookin cool like a fashion queen
shining bright like a laser beam*
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Agreed 100% . My intention was not to offend FFXII lovers. The thread is "is this the best game ever" and IMHO it clearly is not, although it is a very fun and enjoyable game.
The dragging on at the start is normal for any game but it does take the "best game ever" title away from FFXII for me. The music is good but I have yet to find a memorable tune, let alone tunes I'm fanatic about like "To Zanarkand" or "Kuon - Eternity of Waves and Light" (X2 opening). The graphics are outstanding but FF was never about just graphics to me. The story is weak, saving an empire is all well and good but it is so cliche! And Bash and Noah, want more cliche than THAT ?
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I do believe that FFXII has replaced FFVI as my favorite FF. It is everything that I love about the FF series(Big bosses, sidequests, optional bosses, summons, gorgeous music, expansive cutscenes).
Empirically judging FFXII necessarily leads it to be judged based on opinions; and of course people are going to be nostalgically connected to other FF's so their judgments are going to be flavored by their past experiences with the series without focusing on FFXII objectively. This is especially true for people who have only played 2-3 FFs. You can't base a game's rank solely on one element of the game that you liked better in another game.
That said, I honestly have a hard time saying that this is the best FF ever. When I think of FF at its essence I think of Amano's art, Uematsu's music, and the kind of stories that Sakaguchi dreamed up. Uematsu's music defines +90% of the FF world. Amano's art influences, if not pervades, EVERY FF. Sakaguchi's storytelling is simplistic and is also part of every FF. Uematsu's music is the only thing missing from FFXII, but as I stated in another thread, I think that graphic abilities have grown to a point that Uematsu's music, which was absolutely essential in telling the stories of the early games, is no longer necessary for a FF to feel FF. So I suppose that something else has to be considered to set a FF apart as best. It must be FFXII's battle system. Detailed, complex monsters are an integral part of FF. Their detailed artistry and fighting styles meant that given the limits of graphical capacity in the past, fights had to be setup in random battles outside of real-time/space. But now all of that detail can be expressed realtime while still allowing for the gargantuan size of the games, and so the magic and fighting styles can be felt better than ever before, and I think that it will only get better from here. I see FFs in the future with the ability to express the complex job systems in realtime. Ninjas that move swiftly and silently, thieves whose dexterity can be exploited on different parts of the mobs' bodies, summoners who can summon realtime(ala FFXI but more spectacular), dancers and bards who hold concerts in realtime battle, et cetera. So although this active battle system is completely at odds with every FF before it, I think it conveys FF-essence more than ever before. [And honestly I have to give consideration to FFX-2 just because it was the guinea pig for the active system seen in FFXII. Too bad it was such a horrible game.]
Really the best FF ever is FFXI, but because it is online and the general FF population will never play it, I don't take it into consideration at this point. FFXII is the next best thing. Although it departs from the FF formula at a few stages, there is no better FF game, and will eventually allow for the creation of the ultimate best FF ever, maybe XIV or XV.
But really I don't care which FF is the best. I love them all. The greatness of the Final Fantasy series as a whole is what I care about, and that is something which nobody can argue.
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I have to agree. FFXII battle system is indeed "the best ever" even for this biased FFX fanaticIt's is much better than all others, including FFX2 which I only ended up finally liking because of the ABT and the opening song (plus Tidus and Yuna reunion of course)
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Well but that is just it, FFX got me hooked on the first 5 minutes, with that blitzbal game, heavy metal song, a huge fiend attacking. And it only got better from then on, with Tidus sent "1,000 years on the future" and the weird world / society he found himself on.I like how you think you can make sweeping judgments like these when you're still so early in the game that you haven't even gotten an Esper yet.
XII drags on and I have yet to find one memorable song. Even the opening song is fluff, more annoying than good.
The initial missions are pretty dumb too, capture a rogue tomato and a cactus with a flower on his head ? Walk around telling everyone you are someone else ? Compare this with saving a summoner on X or winning a championship of a sport as cool as blitzball. There is just absolutely no comparison!
The game did get more fun after I got a party, the quickenings and some less dumb missions so I'll wait and see. But I fear this game will be like X2, i.e., some cool gameplay, battles and graphics lost on a weak story and lame missions. But at least XII does not have the annoying technopop playing!
I do love the world they created and the graphics. Gambits are fun. Battles are fun too. License board is as cool as sphere grids or better.
But the game clearly lacks something. It won't be the best ever, not by a long shot.
PS: The X team is reunited doing XIII so we may have another great game from SE yet!
the X team is doing XIII!?!?!?!?!!? omg u just made my day!
I think he means that the first game you play is the one you appreciate the most, simply because it is your first experience. If so, then it definitely was not the experience for me; I don't find FFIV to be the best, nor my favorite (or FFVIII demos for that matter). As for FFXII, it's not my favorite either, and is probably somewhere in the middle as far as how I see the game in quality, but it passed my expectations.
Takes up plenty time for me, and it's looking more epic than FFX based on content.
no, it can not and may not be the best final fantasy.. sorry
I liked it a lot, but I find the story was a little too straight forward. I like a little complexity. Also, I am near the end, but I looked ahead to the final battle and I was amazed. It looks pretty simple based off of stats of the boss. I mean, it should be slightly harder than that. I think it would be nice if his level were a little higher, forcing you to do some side-quest work or something. I guess that is just my opinion though. Everything else, I cannot complain too much.
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