Student tazered at UCLA for not having his ID

[Miriel]

Cruise Control, YOU don't care. Obviously other people do care as this thread clearly shows. And I'd rather have a bleeding heart than no heart at all.

Anyway, the UCLA campus security is actually directly linked to LAPD. And y'all have no idea how completely screwed up the LAPD can be. Police brutality, racism, corruption, I really really have a severe disdain for the LAPD.

Also, complete WTF at the dude screaming about the Patriot Act. I mean, what the hell is up with that? And is that really the first thing you think of while be zapped? Still, that video was pretty disgusting to watch. Although I don't blame any of the students there for not stepping in. Those officers were obviously absusive, I wouldn't expect many people to step into that mess and risk their own safety.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm not surprised, it's America.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Nobody cares, you're all bleeding hearts. I only hope he [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] his pants when they zapped him.

Lol.

[Elite Lord Sigma]

What?! That entire scene was a load of crap, and those officers should be thrown into jail and spend the next decade of their life rotting in a cell. Telling him to get up after getting tasered is an incredibly stupid thing to do. That's the equivalent of telling somebody to sing to you after you rip out their vocal chords. That was completely unnecessary, and a blatant abuse of power. They should be fired immediately. That entire situation is totally and utterly sickening and repulsive.

[Raistlin]

Also, complete WTF at the dude screaming about the Patriot Act. I mean, what the hell is up with that? And is that really the first thing you think of while be zapped?

That made me O_o too. Seriously, who would think of that?

[Roto13]

Also, complete WTF at the dude screaming about the Patriot Act. I mean, what the hell is up with that? And is that really the first thing you think of while be zapped?

That made me O_o too. Seriously, who would think of that?

They tapped his phones before they shocked him? I dunno.

[Rocket Edge]

Anyway, the UCLA campus security is actually directly linked to LAPD. And y'all have no idea how completely screwed up the LAPD can be. Police brutality, racism, corruption, I really really have a severe disdain for the LAPD.

Even though i'm not from LA, i can get a pretty good picture of what they're like from the way 2Pac used to rave on about them and that fits the discription.

[Bloodline666]

Cruise Control, YOU don't care. Obviously other people do care as this thread clearly shows. And I'd rather have a bleeding heart than no heart at all.

Anyway, the UCLA campus security is actually directly linked to LAPD. And y'all have no idea how completely screwed up the LAPD can be. Police brutality, racism, corruption, I really really have a severe disdain for the LAPD.

Also, complete WTF at the dude screaming about the Patriot Act. I mean, what the hell is up with that? And is that really the first thing you think of while be zapped? Still, that video was pretty disgusting to watch. Although I don't blame any of the students there for not stepping in. Those officers were obviously absusive, I wouldn't expect many people to step into that mess and risk their own safety.

I've detested LAPD ever since the Rodney King incident.

[Hawkeye]

For you people defending the officers in any way: http://dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?id=38958

What people who witnessed it said:

"It was the most disgusting and vile act I had ever seen in my life," said David Remesnitsky, a 2006 UCLA alumnus who witnessed the incident.

As the student and the officers were struggling, bystanders repeatedly asked the police officers to stop, and at one point officers told the gathered crowd to stand back and threatened to use a Taser on anyone who got too close.

Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number.

Arrest him if he won't leave. Don't keep tasering him because he won't get up. That's horrible.

Do you really believe that this story present both sides to this problem? And what the hell was the guy doing screaming at the top of his lungs? This whole thing is ridiculous; the cops were strict with their authority. They asked repeatedly for the guy to stand up, and the guy refused. The guy was hysterical.

It's nice to not notice how this whole thing could have been avoided; if the guy had his ID, everything would have been fine. Had he cooperated in the first place, things wouldn't have been so drastic.

Perhaps both sides were at fault, but this is in no way solely the cops' fault.

Cruise Control, YOU don't care. Obviously other people do care as this thread clearly shows. And I'd rather have a bleeding heart than no heart at all.

Anyway, the UCLA campus security is actually directly linked to LAPD. And y'all have no idea how completely screwed up the LAPD can be. Police brutality, racism, corruption, I really really have a severe disdain for the LAPD.

Also, complete WTF at the dude screaming about the Patriot Act. I mean, what the hell is up with that? And is that really the first thing you think of while be zapped? Still, that video was pretty disgusting to watch. Although I don't blame any of the students there for not stepping in. Those officers were obviously absusive, I wouldn't expect many people to step into that mess and risk their own safety.

I've detested LAPD ever since the Rodney King incident.

Guilt by association.

Edit by Psychotic: Don't double post, Hawkeye.

[Cruise Control]

Think about it:
Your a cop, and you have a family. They love you (for some god-forsaken reason). It's your job to protect civilians, but you also are responsible for your family. It's your job to make it home alive, every night.

Now, if I asked some kid for his ID, and he starts yelling and screaming like he's on PCP, I'd worry. I'd be like dude, wtf. Your responsibility is to survive, so I'd remove the threat. I would have done it in a lethal fashion, so congrats to the LAPD for being Humane.

Even though i'm not from LA, i can get a pretty good picture of what they're like from the way 2Pac used to rave on about them and that fits the discription.

Because we all know, 2PAC was a wellspring of reliable, unbiased information

EDIT: I changed it from is a wellspring, to was a wellspring. Since he's dead, not in Miami. One pothead down, an incredibly large amount to go.

[Sylvie]

That video was hilarious. That man is screaming like a mothersmurfer even before he got the [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] tazered out of him. I would have shocked him too, what a loud mouth. I swear.

[Raistlin]

Now, if I asked some kid for his ID, and he starts yelling and screaming like he's on PCP, I'd worry. I'd be like dude, wtf. Your responsibility is to survive, so I'd remove the threat. I would have done it in a lethal fashion, so congrats to the LAPD for being Humane.

... wow.

[Yeargdribble]

Perhaps you aren't aware of what university life is like. It's pretty easy to forget your ID card when going somewhere. I've been caught in a similar situation where I went to work on something long before a curfew and then it get's late while I'm working and they start checking IDs and I don't have it on me and they send me packing.

So because I forget my ID I should be tazered? I'm sorry, but if I was leaving under my own will and a cop felt the need to grab my arm I would think "WTF" Cops are NOT the law. If they do something that is out of line you DO NOT have to put up with it. Maybe your life would be easier if you just bent over and dropped your pants like they want you to, but that doesn't make it right.


Here's an example. If you are driving late at night and you get pulled over, you have the right to drive to a well lit area before actually pulling over. So if some lady gets pulled over and cracks the window and the cop asks her to step out and she doesn't feel safe... shouldn't she say she'll drive to a well lit area first? If the cop says no and insists are you saying she should just do what he says?

Hell no. It's her right to drive to a well lit area and there is no reason a cop shouldn't let her. You shouldn't just give in because a cop says so. They are no omnipotent. They work within the framework of the law too and if they are violating your rights you can challenge that.


BTW... could the immature, pre-pubescent boys stop responding to this threads with the whole "I woulda shot his ass if he pulled that" type attitude. This is a serious issue.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

Now the thing is... I find it hard to believe they would do this over ID. I just have trouble beleiving it. I have no idea why an officer of the law would abuse his position this much, unless he was evil or completely insane. And I don't know how either types could become a police officer.

Somehow I think there must be more to this story. Or it could be that I'm Canadian. This would never happen in Canada over an ID. I don't even know if we have or need University security.

If this truly was over ID, and I am willing to accept the possibility, I cannot accept the injustice of it.

And as for bipper's comment... would you truly run to the defense of a complete stranger against two armed guards, bipper, as they threatened you? I doubt it. That the bystanders moved against them at all was enough.

[nik0tine]

I agree that what was done to the person was wrong, but don't expect everybody to start rioting and punching cops. That's just dumb.

I completely disagree. When the law proves that it cannot handle itself rioting is perfectly justified from a moral standpoint. Although, nobody should be blamed for not rioting.

Do you really believe that this story present both sides to this problem? And what the hell was the guy doing screaming at the top of his lungs? This whole thing is ridiculous; the cops were strict with their authority. They asked repeatedly for the guy to stand up, and the guy refused. The guy was hysterical.

Of course not. I'm sure the guy was at fault, but the cops abused their power. From what I hear, this is obvious. Tasering someone more than twice is asanine. I don't care if he had a gun and had attempted to kill the officers. You don't taser someone more than twice, ever, regardless of the circumstances.

It's nice to not notice how this whole thing could have been avoided; if the guy had his ID, everything would have been fine. Had he cooperated in the first place, things wouldn't have been so drastic.

That's not the issue here. People are going to be idiots, and cops have to deal with it correctly, even at their own expense.

Even minor abuses of power should not be tolerated. These cops should rot in prison for ten to fifteen years for this. Their lives need to be thrown away and we need to make an example out of them.

Now the thing is... I find it hard to believe they would do this over ID. I just have trouble beleiving it. I have no idea why an officer of the law would abuse his position this much, unless he was evil or completely insane. And I don't know how either types could become a police officer.

After having met many people my age who aspire to be cops it doesn't surprise me. The job naturally attracts terrible, vile people.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

Now the thing is... I find it hard to believe they would do this over ID. I just have trouble beleiving it. I have no idea why an officer of the law would abuse his position this much, unless he was evil or completely insane. And I don't know how either types could become a police officer.

After having met many people my age who aspire to be cops it doesn't surprise me. The job naturally attracts terrible, vile people.

It's not that way in Canada, as far as I can see. I think you're generalizing. To me, a person who would want to be a policeman is honourable and self-sacrificing; at least, one who wants to be a policeman for the right reasons.