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    My reasoning's for not inclusion is not because he didn't have a motive. As stated above, his motive was a twisted revenge against humanity but in reality his true motive eventually became fulfilling his "mother's" will. Jenova was a planet parasite (I'm going to ignore that this is a complete ripoff of Lavos from CT ahem...) Sephiroth was going to basically fulfill what Jenova couldn't since Jenova is a hollow fragment of her former self by the time of FFVII. It's not a bad premise it's just that ultimately Sephiroth is just another pawn. He thinks he's doing it for himself but he's only really fulfilling Jenova's basic nature. This kinda've makes him something to be pitied in my eyes.

    Kefka was just a narrcissistic(sp?) sociopath when it comes down to it. Sure there's the little backstory about the failed magitech knight experiment but we never really got to see Kefka before that. For all we know, he was an arrogant jackass to begin with; and the experiment just finally pushed him over the edge.

    Kuja is very similiar to Kefka but we at least get to hear more about his back story and it comes off more convincingly.

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    My reasoning's for not inclusion is not because he didn't have a motive. As stated above, his motive was a twisted revenge against humanity but in reality his true motive eventually became fulfilling his "mother's" will. Jenova was a planet parasite (I'm going to ignore that this is a complete ripoff of Lavos from CT ahem...) Sephiroth was going to basically fulfill what Jenova couldn't since Jenova is a hollow fragment of her former self by the time of FFVII. It's not a bad premise it's just that ultimately Sephiroth is just another pawn. He thinks he's doing it for himself but he's only really fulfilling Jenova's basic nature. This kinda've makes him something to be pitied in my eyes.
    Jenova's basic nature was to destroy worlds, not to absorb the Lifestream of it and become a god. Sephiroth was fulfilling his own objective, and he was using Jenova as a pawn(like the Ultimania said). Sephiroth was doing it for himself. But the problem is that he is doing it, just because he is an arrogant power hungry. And this is not a good motive.

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    My thesis will always make more sense than the UOG... It's really stupid they made it to begin with. No other game has had all the mystery totally sucked out of it.

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    Most Acomplished- Kefka or Kuja. Kuja did many things such as draining the Eidolons from Dagger, Manipulated Queen Brahne and used her resources to wage war in many nations and he backstabs her in the end. He also managed to destroy Terra and kill the FF9 party. (Though he most likely put all his energy into one final attack for that)

    Kefka used Gestahl's Imperial Army, much like Kuja using the Alexandria army to wage war and destroy towns. He also backstabs Gestahl and takes control of the statues and he uses them to alter the world's landmass and terrorize people from his tower.

    Most Intelligent- Once again, Kefka or Kuja. The both manipulated someone of higher power (Emporer Gestahl, Queen Brahne) to get what they want, then killed them. They both waited patiently and bided their time with someone more powerful then them, then waited when the time was right to backstab them.

    Most Powerful- This is really hard to determine. Judging by hardest to beat, Zeromus, judgeing by attacks, Sephy because he could destroy the Solar System. But I will judge based on events that happened in the storylines. I would once again say Kefka/Kuja destroyed a planet ('nuff said) and Kefka had the power of the statues. According to FFVI, the statues have the power of all magic in the world and possibly in the universe of FFVI (Except for the Espers, but that's probably because their powers are seperate from the statues.) Also, in the end when Kefka was destroyed, all magic was gone. I mean as in there's no more magic in existence.

    Best Appearance- Sephy, which is most likely why many people like him so much.

    Best Motivation/Character- Sephy did have a good reason for doing what he did instead of just for Power/Supremacy/Revenge like most villains. Well, ok, in the end he did want to absorb the power of Lifestream, but the reason he went evil was because he found out he wasn't human.

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    Least Accomplished- Shuyin. I mean, his anger did cause the Aeons to go evil in X-2, and he did kill the Crimson Squad in the Den of Woe by turning them insane, but other than that, nothing.

    Least Intelligent- Shuyin, I don't really see how he was smarter than other FF villains.

    Weakest- Ultimecia. She wasn't really powerful, it was just that nobody could attack her at first because she was in the future. Then, in her castle, she had to use her servants to seal your powers. Even though she was 'absorbing the universe,' I fail to see why she would be more powerful than other FF villains.

    Worst Appearance- Kuja wore a thong, Kefka was a clown, Ultimecia was just...ew. Sin was a giant fishlike thing and Yu Yevon was a midget octopus.

    Worst Motives/Character- Well, Shuyin. His motive was even worse than the normal Power/Supremacy/ Revenge motive.

    But for Character...Ultimecia. I mean you never really got to see what kind of person she was like, and she never really talked until the end of the game and tALkeD wEIrD as well.

    Overall best IMO: Kefka (with Kuja as a VERY close second)
    Worst Overall: Ultimecia

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    Most Acomplished-
    Kefka did manage to become a god.

    Most Intelligent-
    Kuja, the manipulative bastard.

    Most Powerful-
    Now that's a tricky one. For mass destruction prior to obtaining some external source of power, the Emperor of Palamecia. (I'm going on storyline, not gameplay) Overall, Kuja. C'mon, he destroyed a friggin' planet.

    Best Appearance-
    Trance Kuja

    Best Motivation/Character-
    Kuja. I can really identify with his character.

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    Least Accomplished-
    Borgen, FFII. If it has to be a major one, Zemus, FFIV.

    Least Intelligent-
    Ultimecia. Screwing with time never works.

    Weakest-
    From what I've seen and heard, Sin was suprisingly pathetic.

    Worst Appearance-
    Bhrane *shudders*

    Worst Motives/Character-
    Sephiroth. Wimpy emo mamma's boy. Chaos and the Emperor are close seconds, but that's mostly due to when the games came out.
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