Well, I used my Red Sprial when I was a lv 8 Vann on the werewolves and now I'm a lv 11 Vann from a lv 8 in a half-hour time period just because my quickening on the werewolves! Do you guys think that a quickening is too cheap?! I hit over 4k of damage from my used to be a lv 10 Vann!