Overpopulation Will Be The Death of Us ALL!!!

[The Man]

A world were only intelligent people were bred would be a very horrible world in the long run. Imagine a world where everyone was inclined to go to college to learn higher end jobs, and had the potential for better social understanding. With everyone wanting the better jobs, who would be the farmers, the mechanics, or the department store cashiers? Intelligent people wouldn't want these jobs, yet they still need done. Now imagine if the government came up with a system to fill these jobs, whether it be by lottery, chosen by birth, or any other means. The person chosen would not be happy with their life.

I think that would only be true if the dominant paradigm in the society were that of capitalism. There are other paradigms that have hardly ever been explored.

As to why people in poverty pop out babies - as I said in the other thread, it's because the social cost of having children for people living in poverty is negligible, and in fact it's actually advantageous for people living in Third World conditions to have children. In an agricultural or sweatshop society, children manage to sustain themselves around the age of eight. In a post-industrial society, where you have to send kids to college and they generally don't even work for a living until they're out of graduate school, having children becomes a much larger social cost, and so people abstain from doing it nearly as much. So, in short, one solution to overpopulation would be to stop hoarding so much for ourselves.

That said, I think the dangers of overpopulation in the Third World to the planet as a whole are frequently overstated. Certainly, if we continue to be as generous towards the Third World as we currently are, the number of people starving (it's currently 30,000 per day, and growing) will only continue to increase. However, the people living in the Third World are not the ones using all the resources. The USA contains 4% of the world's population, and consumes 35% of the world's resources, while the rest of the world, containing 96% of the world's population, consumes 65% of the world's resources. That means that, per capita, Americans use over twelve times as much resources as the rest of the world, averaged out. When you compare Americans to the poorest thirty percent of the world, it's even larger - I think it's a hundred times per capita or something.

[41-Inches-Wide]

Certainly, if we continue to be as generous towards the Third World as we currently are, the number of people starving (it's currently 30,000 per day, and growing) will only continue to increase.

There is the problem of foreign aid. If America did dole out money for the poor lot of us, I've never seen a single cent. Yes, it never reaches the people who need it the most.

However, the people living in the Third World are not the ones using all the resources. The USA contains 4% of the world's population, and consumes 35% of the world's resources, while the rest of the world, containing 96% of the world's population, consumes 65% of the world's resources. That means that, per capita, Americans use over twelve times as much resources as the rest of the world, averaged out. When you compare Americans to the poorest thirty percent of the world, it's even larger - I think it's a hundred times per capita or something.

Actually poverty because of all these hoarding of resources isn't the solely the fault of the people of America. They have money, they spend it, eat a lot and avail of different luxuries.
They're first-world, they earned their state after years of history anyway. We just have to catch up.

[Millia Billia]

Can you imagine how unfunny and boring the world would be without dumb people? I would not like that much.

[Firo Volondé]

Isn't it clear what the solution is? Neuter everyone! Seriously, anybody born as of the end of this sentence should be culled.

[Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer]

So what you wanna do!?

Unless we start cutting penis and stuff like that things will never change!


I give blood is that a starter?

[blackmage_nuke]

Maybe starting the Battle Royale Act would help

[Chemical]

Can you imagine how unfunny and boring the world would be without dumb people? I would not like that much.

Yes, God forbid there wouldn't be another wasted TV slot of idiots running their motorbikes over homemade ramps or doing body slams off the roofs of their houses.

Childbirth shouldn't have to be controlled by a government, that's what nature was for. We've come to a point, however, where natural selection no longer has the power to keep our numbers in check. Rather, medical and technological advancements have allowed for our species to master nature so that the death rate in infants due to natural (and unfortunate) circumstances has been significantly reduced.

It's now a personal and moral obligation to logically evaluate the circumstance of our environment and ask ... "Does the world need another child?"

God knows we all want to have our own bundle of joy. I can't deny my own maternal instincts... but that's exactly what it is: instinct, primal urges and primitive desire to procreate to keep the species and genes alive. Our natural make-up did not predict technology though... so although it's difficult; its truely up to us to overcome these instincts so that maybe we can start preserving the world instead of our species.

We respect the lives of our species so much, and for good reason... but we respect ourselves so much that we forget to respect the land and the creatures we share it with.

[Riana]

Does this mean I'm not allowed to have babies?

[Resha]

What's it going to take? A cosmic anomaly, my friend. Not that I do any of that on regular basis.

[Anaisa]

Extremely poor people shouldn't have children. They should all be sterilised. Anyone who would want to have a child when they know the child is going to suffer, is not fit to be a parent anyway. An then there are the people who are a waste of space. It would be better if the government would put them to good use by experimenting on them, but if their not going to do that, they may as well kill them. Rather than just throwing them in prison an making us pay to keep them. Or worse,leaving them free to harass the decent folk. An as for resources, that's down to the government again. How the worlds resources are supplied, is not under my control.

[Loony BoB]

In any case I think people who can't afford children should not pop out babies. It's curious to me that so many people with poverty or near-poverty income have so many children. I may be discriminating against poor people, but tough. If you can't afford to financially support children, don't have them.

Ain't that the truth. Sums up my thoughts well enough. Of course, everyone should be able to afford to have ONE baby sometime in their life. But ten? C'mon now.

[Twilight Edge]

Whatever.

[Old Manus]

GCSE Geography teaches us that third world people have more children because they need them to take care of the rest of the family, and help on the farm/sweatshop/whatever.

[Miriel]

I wasn't referring to 3rd world countries in my post. And if having more children makes things more financially viable for a family, then that doesn't fall into my category of people who are unable to support their children.

I was however talking about poverty-stricken families right here in Los Angeles who have like 5 kids. My Dad is a Minister and he does what he can to help families like this in the slums of LA. So I've seen these people with my own eyes. And I just can't understand why people would bring children into this world who are gonna go hungry. It may have something to do with religion and the refusal to use birth control. But god dammit, poor people are just gonna have to give up on sex if they can't afford children and they refuse to use birth control.

[NeoCracker]

We should eradicate the entirity of the worlds Poverty and send all of teh Convicts in the US to China and hype them up on steroids and Crack causing a war in the streets that will eventually spread throughout China and their population. With the Drugs now available to the the common man of China to a degree never thought possible we should send spies in to incite revolts among the drug users and cause wide spread destruction across China so they inevetably destroy themselves. Not only will this remove convicts from america, but eliminate a large portion of the world population.

With the completion of this step we should launch an asault against india and use the land for cattle farming to feed our ever growing hunger.

Doing things morally and naturlaly are for the week.