Am I a satanist

[Besimudo]

Well,

Satan does not exist as in molecules and atoms (although these are just philosophical/scientific devices anyhow) but Satan is the universal form of disobedience. All humans can and will relate to this myth i.e. it is a credible as a scientific experiment and it does have meaning - moreso that the former.

I will now proceed. If you take the side of Satan then you are choosing Narcissus and also Prometheus.

Both the mortal and Titan were fine examples of creation, however, they were vain and sneaky, respectively. It goes against ethics to be either, and hence, both entities were punished.

In the judeo-christian tradition, the punishment was grievously dealt. Satan is permanently separated from God. This must be agonising. Taking pity on Satan takes pleasure in refutation. We all feel this at times. Satan must confront his separation from paradise (this also does not exist in reality but is a place in our mind). This universe is half reality, half mind. Before the universe at present was created, whether we explain it with God = 7 days (relevant) or from singularity to now = 4 bya (less relevant to every day life) - big numbers are like monsters, they howl in our minds and have little reference. This separation happened prior to created order; hence, Satan has no place before God and as humans we should accept that this is God's matter.

Pity is much easier than judgement as it stimulates the liver reflex - our reptilian brains are stronger than the cerebellum Vs. cerebral cortex - and this is why Zeus extracted the liver of Prometheus daily. That self consuming feeling derived out of pity comes from deep within ourselves - mythology is the science of the reptilian, non-conscious brain (for some reason people need to have this explained to them these days, they just can't accept the power of stories).

Judgement, and I mean real judgement (not prejudice - this is another story) comes from the heart ... our most precious mind. The ancients believed that thoughts and decisions came from the heart. The brain was of little relevance ... a bit like the 4 billion years or whatever we have calculated the age of the universe to be. It is of little relevance. What is important is that you use your heart rather than your liver and this is the way of God.



Notes: space occupies most of the universe yet it has no physical property … does this mean it is a place of mind also? Indeed. The same can be said of myths, they resound clearly of nature yet resemble little of this world.

Thank you for your Religion/mythology related question.

[chionos]

just to answer the, "would satan be forgiven if he asked for forgiveness" question.

no. In christianity, the basis for forgiveness is Christ's death. Christ's sacrifice was relevent because, since Adam, the human, brought sin into the world by producing the first sin. Christ provided redemption from it by becoming human and dying without any sin. That's the short version obviously. Since satan is not a human, Christ's death did nothing to absolve his sins in any way. I suppose if Christ were to become an angel, he could die for the angels, but that's between god and the angels.

On kind of a side note, Anne Rice's Memnoch the Devil is kind of a neat take on the Devil theme, and is probably(assuming the devil's existence) far closer to the reality than what is generally assumed about the devil, even(or especially) by biblical accounts.

Assuming once again that god and the devil exist, I find it humorous that you pity the devil while he's in heaven before god telling god what a worthless loser and sinner you are(according to the bible).

[Rainecloud]

I am christian...nostly and I notice how everyone talks so horribly about the devil and how all bad things are his doing. That has fueled my compassion for the devil kinda. He was an angel that made a bad decision and now is blamed for all things bad. What if he asked for forgiveness would he get it. Doesn't he deserve a chance.

The question is do you pity the devil and do you think I'm a satanist?

I've often thought about this. If humans can turn back from their evil ways, repent and get back in God's favour again, surely the devil can apologise for all the nasty things he's done, suck up to the Almighty a bit and avoid his impending date with the eternal abyss.

Nah, you're not a Satanist. You're just far too forgiving.

[Quindiana Jones]

Satan can't apologise because he doesn't feel sorry for what he's done. It's as simple as that.

[Chemical]

It's hard to make sense of all the terrible things in the world... Sometimes we use metaphors to help us along the way - in the end the one honest truth I can offer is that without any bad there is no good and the origin is hardly as important as the effect.