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and you can even tell that it isn't underrated in EoFF because it's forum has more posts then any other FF forum except FFVII.
In all fairness, about half of those posts are pointless back and forth arguments about the R=U theory.
True, true, I'll give you that.

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There was no "depth" to FFVIII more than any other love story. Maybe there was more "depth" than the love stories of other FF's, since all of FFVIII was about Rinoa and Squall's love. As to the R=U theory, didn't Rinoa only get sorceress abilities because Ultimecia possessed her? That's probably why she only got "Angel Wing" after when she was possessed. As for Griever, she probably only created him out of Squall's imagination, probably to scare him. And if R=U were true, why would Ultimecia be fighting Rinoa? Without going into Time Compression jargon, Rinoa was Ultimecia before turning evil right? Well, that would mean that if Rinoa was dead, Ultimecia wouldn't exist then. Like people say, there really is not enough proof for R=U other than theories and "symbolism" in the game. And symbolism can be determined in many ways.
Ultimecia has no memory of her former life whatsoever, and therefore has no idea who Squall and Rinoa are.
Where is any of this even hinted in game?
Put two and two together. I provided the evidence that Rinoa may be Ultimecia (didn't say for sure, which is what forces us to use our brains). Ultimecia tries to kill Squall and Rinoa and seems not to know who they are. GFs make people forget things. Ultimecia uses at least one GF that we know about: Griever.

Logic, people. Logic. Am I the only one with pointed ears here?
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I never said she used any other GFs. I said she used at least one GF that we know of.

My take on the Griever thing is that when Squall was killed, Rinoa blocked his path to the afterlife and imprisoned it in the Griever ring--something had had sentimental value to him--where over time he was transformed into "the most powerful GF in Squall's mind." He had become what he had imagined the legendary Griever would have been like. Thus, the GF that he had become was the most powerful GF "in his mind," i.e. he transformed into what he had imagined all of his life. This gives Ultimecia's "juntioning unto Griever" so much more meaning.
Rinoa blocked his path to the...
Oh won't even try to figure out how she could possibly do that...

Anyway, would you mind explaining to me how she lived that long? Rinoa's not immortal, face it there is the R=U theories aren't backed in the game.

You are trying to add depth to a depthless villian.

R=U is less then a theory, more of a fanfic, but not factually at all.