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    I am christian...nostly and I notice how everyone talks so horribly about the devil and how all bad things are his doing. That has fueled my compassion for the devil kinda. He was an angel that made a bad decision and now is blamed for all things bad. What if he asked for forgiveness would he get it. Doesn't he deserve a chance.

    The question is do you pity the devil and do you think I'm a satanist?


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    Not really since he will just backstab you if you help him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outlaw starwind View Post
    I am christian...nostly and I notice how everyone talks so horribly about the devil and how all bad things are his doing. That has fueled my compassion for the devil kinda. He was an angel that made a bad decision and now is blamed for all things bad. What if he asked for forgiveness would he get it. Doesn't he deserve a chance.

    The question is do you pity the devil and do you think I'm a satanist?
    I cannot pity what does not exist, but no, you are not a satanist, either in the movie/stereotype or the Laveyan sense of the word.

    However, your compassion for what is supposed to be the emblem of all evil is a touching trait, one which more christians ought to share.

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    Actually if you think about it Satan's fall is intentional. If you believe that angels do not have free will, then God must of willed it for him to rebel. Thus making the existence of Satan within God's will. Sure you can pity him, but he was created (assuming you believe the aforementioned stuff) to entice humans to do evil. He is rightfully blamed for causing evil since that is his role. He is God's adversary, in the most literal sense. Satan means adversary.

    This is all assuming that you are Christian or believe in some Christian doctrine. Also a Satanist are typically people who worships Satan, in whatever regard. Pitying him is different from worshiping him.


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    The way I understand it, if the devil and the demons (i.e. the fallen angels) were to repent, God would forgive them; however, they are so full of pride and passion that it is impossible for them to repent, so it will never happen. During an exorcism, the priest can get the demon to say just about anything, but no matter how hard he tries he can never get him to say, "Forgive me" or "Have mercy on me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by outlaw starwind View Post
    I am christian...nostly and I notice how everyone talks so horribly about the devil and how all bad things are his doing. That has fueled my compassion for the devil kinda. He was an angel that made a bad decision and now is blamed for all things bad. What if he asked for forgiveness would he get it. Doesn't he deserve a chance.

    The question is do you pity the devil and do you think I'm a satanist?
    I can't find a way of responding to the first part of your question that doesn't treat it as nonsense. Satan is one of the least believable parts of Christian myth, by far. I don't pity the devil any more than I pity the tooth fairy. In an entirely metaphorical sense, i.e. "Is it wrong to pity a PERSON who does something bad", I'd say not necessarily. Bad people do tend to suffer, and it's a natural reaction to pity such people. But pity shouldn't override the knowledge that they really are bad people and may be deserving of punishment and may actually deserve any suffering that comes their way.

    So far as "am I a Satanist", I don't think you can accidentally become a member of a religion without noticing.

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    Saying that a made-up deity has caused all the bad things in the world is an insult to all the people that have died under the hand of truly bad individuals. It absolves our actions.

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    Mercy is a Christian attribute. Perhaps you just adhere to the old saw, "Love the sinner, hate the sin" and if there was more of a sinner than Satan, the south has yet to find him xD

    Besides, satanists do self worship. They tend to be amused by people who think they worship satan, it seems.

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    Do you know what a Satanist is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by outlaw starwind View Post
    I am christian...nostly and I notice how everyone talks so horribly about the devil and how all bad things are his doing. That has fueled my compassion for the devil kinda. He was an angel that made a bad decision and now is blamed for all things bad. What if he asked for forgiveness would he get it. Doesn't he deserve a chance.

    The question is do you pity the devil and do you think I'm a satanist?
    That's very honorable of you. No, I don't think you're a satanist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    Mercy is a Christian attribute. Perhaps you just adhere to the old saw, "Love the sinner, hate the sin" and if there was more of a sinner than Satan, the south has yet to find him xD

    Besides, satanists do self worship. They tend to be amused by people who think they worship satan, it seems.
    Satanists dont worship satan, in a sense you could say they worship themselves. Read "Theory-Practice"

    So no, you are not a satanist. And i dont pity lucifer. As Darth Anarcus said, satan and his demons are prideful. Sure, god would grant them forgiveness if they asked for it, but they dont. So if he was stupid enough to get his ass thrown out of heaven and then be too proud to even as his creator for forgiveness, i'm not going to pity him.

    And then dont say "i'm a christian" and then turn around and wonder if you're a satanist. You dont seem to be grounded in your faith very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamaneko View Post
    Saying that a made-up deity has caused all the bad things in the world is an insult to all the people that have died under the hand of truly bad individuals. It absolves our actions.
    A lot of people have died in the hands of plain and ordinary people too. As Martin Luther King said once, sometimes all it takes for evil to triumph is the fact that good people stay silent in the face of evil they see being done. Google MLK or Hannah Arendt and "the banality of Evil" to see more about this.

    Pride, sloth and greed can prevent us from a lot of good stuff and make us "evil", just like it did with the mythical Devil. For example: Arendt's research subject, the Nazi guy who made sure the trains loaded with people sent to die arrived at Auschwitz efficiently and on time.

    The guy was a "nice and normal" guy that wasn't full of hate or deluded with the Nazi ideals. He was married, had even tried once or twice to help refugees... But he was too lazy to think about WHAT was he expediting and making faster. He was too greedy and devoted on keeping his top post, which made him proud and satisfied to dwell on the bad consequences of what he was doing. Also too much of a coward to do something against it even if he did think about it and regretted it.

    I think that the devil myth is referring to integral parts of the human spirit - pride, sloth, greed... - and cautioning us from being slaves to it. In a sense we all have Satan inside of us as we all have God within us. You just have to decide which master you serve, and be strong enough to live by your choices and convictions.
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    You're not a satanist, its just that you dont sound very sure of your faith. I dont pity the devil. As said, he deliberatly got kicked out of heaven because he tried to overthrow God.

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    I odn't have pitty of the devil coz I'm atheist so for me God and the Devil does not exist!

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