Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
That's no glitch, so it doesn't count.

I think you are mistaking Ultima Weapon for Final Form, which is required that you fight Roxas. There is no limitation on the Ultima Weapon, except that whatever the limitations are on the ingredients required for Synthesis currently are. For example, if I have not yet reached WtNW, then I obviously can't make Ultima Weapon because of the O+ that happen to be there.

Sora ALWAYS twirls around Keyblades that are in his hand in Master and Wisdom.
hey i said giltches AND secrets lol
and its possiable to get utilm wepon be4 twtnw because primo moogle and energy crystal make d count to 2 orchilam +
oh and i didnt know any key blade spins on master form cause i only used master form when i fighting luxlord
and d key blade spins on wisdom? ............