I don't think retouching is a bad thing, in terms of making images look nice it's important I think, and they need to do this stuff for magazines. It's just a shame if people think it's all real and get worried about it. I mean, I don't really because I reckon with all the treatment those people get (including makeup artists etc), I'd easily be ultra hot. XDD But it is nice to see those people looking more "normal".

Also with the Dove thing, I don't think they're saying, oh real beauty is flabby and stuff. They are just using a bit of an extreme to show the point. I mean in the advert I saw, the women looked fairly normal, not too flabby... but it does make me feel better to see stuff like that being recognised, all the same. Either way it doesn't matter, everyone can be beautiful