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    Wait a minute...

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    Did anyone else notice that if you take away the "x" in Xehanort's name and mix up the letters a little (like you do with Organization XIII members), you get "no heart"? This would explain a lot. If he didn't have a heart from the start then, according to what dr. Finkelstein said during your second visit in Halloween Town, he longed for one, thus was absorbed in studying the heart, the darkness in it and the Heart of all Worlds - Kingdom Hearts. What's more, I recall Ansem the Wise stating in one of his reports that he found Xehanort without any memory. I think he might have already been a Nobody (but how could a Nobody become a Heartless and another Nobody - that I don't know). If I remember correctly, Roxas didn't remember his life as Sora because Sora stayed a Heartless for a very short period of time. What if the same happened to Xehanort (although it would be weird if a guy was called "No Heart").

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    I never even thought about that! <3 <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    **WARNING!!! The author of this here post does not know if this has already appeared in some other thread, nor did he finish the whole of KHII yet. So please don't bash him... hard...**
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    Did anyone else notice that if you take away the "x" in Xehanort's name and mix up the letters a little (like you do with Organization XIII members), you get "no heart"?
    Little significance. Sure the symbolism is great, but outside of that, it means nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    This would explain a lot.
    It explains nothing, as all else has been explained.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    If he didn't have a heart from the start then, according to what dr. Finkelstein said during your second visit in Halloween Town, he longed for one, thus was absorbed in studying the heart, the darkness in it and the Heart of all Worlds - Kingdom Hearts.
    This does not account for those who study the Heart, yet have one, which was the idea of Ansem in the first place. Kingdom Hearts was not the original focus of the studies conducted; it was the byproduct of research and corellation, and multiple theories, theories which happened to be true.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    What's more, I recall Ansem the Wise stating in one of his reports that he found Xehanort without any memory.
    Richard, Tellah, Galuf, Cloud, Zidane, and many other Final Fantasy characters (or any other literary characters) also suffer some form of amnesia. Should I assume that they too, they are potential Nobodies? Again, this has little impact on the plot, other than that in order to help him, Ansem had him study. Had he had full memory, Ansem would not have taken him in, and his adeptness for research would not have been unlocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    I think he might have already been a Nobody (but how could a Nobody become a Heartless and another Nobody - that I don't know).
    They don't split twice. The very definition of a Nobody is the shell of a Soul and the Body when the Heart is left behind. Xehanort is a human, and this has been stated numerous times. Without a Heart to lose, you can't produce another Nobody, nor another Heartless. Infact, there is no guarantee that Nobodies are formed at the formation of a Heartless, since Nobodies only form if the Heart is strong, as in, the TOTAL amount of power in a person. Heartless are formed from the Darkness. Less Darkness, weaker Heartless. This explains why Roxas is so strong compared to the puny Shadow that Sora became.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    If I remember correctly, Roxas didn't remember his life as Sora because Sora stayed a Heartless for a very short period of time. What if the same happened to Xehanort (although it would be weird if a guy was called "No Heart").
    This is also explained in the Ansem Reports (later ones found in WtNW). Roxas fails to have a memory becuase of three factors: the fact that Sora was not around long enough to be a Heartless, Sora unleashing his own Heart with Ansem's Keyblade, the one that unlocks Hearts, and from having Kairi's stored in himself. The Keyblade did not play a role before the Heartless were created, so the origin of his amnesia is needless trivia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    Did anyone else notice that if you take away the "x" in Xehanort's name and mix up the letters a little (like you do with Organization XIII members), you get "no heart"?
    If you remove the X and swap the letters around, you can also get the word "Another", which kind of makes sense. There's several references to the "other side" (of the world, of the heart etc), and the Organization theme in KH Final Mix soundtrack is also called "Another side" (based on the trailer video, "Another side, another story").
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    **WARNING!!! The author of this here post does not know if this has already appeared in some other thread, nor did he finish the whole of KHII yet. So please don't bash him... hard...**
    I will bash if I deem it necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    Did anyone else notice that if you take away the "x" in Xehanort's name and mix up the letters a little (like you do with Organization XIII members), you get "no heart"?
    Little significance. Sure the symbolism is great, but outside of that, it means nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    This would explain a lot.
    It explains nothing, as all else has been explained.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    If he didn't have a heart from the start then, according to what dr. Finkelstein said during your second visit in Halloween Town, he longed for one, thus was absorbed in studying the heart, the darkness in it and the Heart of all Worlds - Kingdom Hearts.
    This does not account for those who study the Heart, yet have one, which was the idea of Ansem in the first place. Kingdom Hearts was not the original focus of the studies conducted; it was the byproduct of research and corellation, and multiple theories, theories which happened to be true.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    What's more, I recall Ansem the Wise stating in one of his reports that he found Xehanort without any memory.
    Richard, Tellah, Galuf, Cloud, Zidane, and many other Final Fantasy characters (or any other literary characters) also suffer some form of amnesia. Should I assume that they too, they are potential Nobodies? Again, this has little impact on the plot, other than that in order to help him, Ansem had him study. Had he had full memory, Ansem would not have taken him in, and his adeptness for research would not have been unlocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    I think he might have already been a Nobody (but how could a Nobody become a Heartless and another Nobody - that I don't know).
    They don't split twice. The very definition of a Nobody is the shell of a Soul and the Body when the Heart is left behind. Xehanort is a human, and this has been stated numerous times. Without a Heart to lose, you can't produce another Nobody, nor another Heartless. Infact, there is no guarantee that Nobodies are formed at the formation of a Heartless, since Nobodies only form if the Heart is strong, as in, the TOTAL amount of power in a person. Heartless are formed from the Darkness. Less Darkness, weaker Heartless. This explains why Roxas is so strong compared to the puny Shadow that Sora became.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    If I remember correctly, Roxas didn't remember his life as Sora because Sora stayed a Heartless for a very short period of time. What if the same happened to Xehanort (although it would be weird if a guy was called "No Heart").
    This is also explained in the Ansem Reports (later ones found in WtNW). Roxas fails to have a memory becuase of three factors: the fact that Sora was not around long enough to be a Heartless, Sora unleashing his own Heart with Ansem's Keyblade, the one that unlocks Hearts, and from having Kairi's stored in himself. The Keyblade did not play a role before the Heartless were created, so the origin of his amnesia is needless trivia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_White_Wizard_of_Fynn View Post
    Did anyone else notice that if you take away the "x" in Xehanort's name and mix up the letters a little (like you do with Organization XIII members), you get "no heart"?
    If you remove the X and swap the letters around, you can also get the word "Another", which kind of makes sense. There's several references to the "other side" (of the world, of the heart etc), and the Organization theme in KH Final Mix soundtrack is also called "Another side" (based on the trailer video, "Another side, another story").
    Exactly....

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    Dear God, Tav, it's as if you ate KH... or swollowed it whole! But thanks anyway. Seph, thanks a lot, too. I haven't noticed that. Now it makes even more sense.

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    Nobody is going to bring up Mansex at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarWeaver View Post
    Nobody is going to bring up Mansex at all?
    We were going to, Lunar, but you posted at that time, so I avoided mentioning it.

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    All Nobody's names are anagrams of the original plus an x.
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    Nobody is going to bring up Mansex at all?
    Mansex rules! To bad they settled on Xemnas instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No.78 View Post
    All Nobody's names are anagrams of the original plus an x.
    Untrue. This rule only applies to OXIII members. The last time I checked, Naminé is not an OXIII member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No.78 View Post
    All Nobody's names are anagrams of the original plus an x.
    Untrue. This rule only applies to OXIII members. The last time I checked, Naminé is not an OXIII member.
    Members from 2 to 6's real name were in Ansem's report, Everyone know whos Roxas was, Xenmas' Real name is Xehanort but steal the name Ansem and add a x with it. As for members from 7 to 12's real names are in fact unknow, does anyone knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonface View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No.78 View Post
    All Nobody's names are anagrams of the original plus an x.
    Untrue. This rule only applies to OXIII members. The last time I checked, Naminé is not an OXIII member.
    Members from 2 to 6's real name were in Ansem's report, Everyone know whos Roxas was, Xenmas' Real name is Xehanort but steal the name Ansem and add a x with it. As for members from 7 to 12's real names are in fact unknow, does anyone knows?

    i know, its some moronic foreign name

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    Namine isn't a proper nobody. Correct me if I'm wrong...
    But you're probably right, okay, just the OXIII members then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonface View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No.78 View Post
    All Nobody's names are anagrams of the original plus an x.
    Untrue. This rule only applies to OXIII members. The last time I checked, Naminé is not an OXIII member.
    Members from 2 to 6's real name were in Ansem's report, Everyone know whos Roxas was, Xenmas' Real name is Xehanort but steal the name Ansem and add a x with it. As for members from 7 to 12's real names are in fact unknow, does anyone knows?
    Xemnas' real name is ansem u know take away x mix it up. Xehanort is a heartless form of ansem and he was a strong heart so he stayed inteligent


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