do you consider rap to be music? IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE

[cloudff7tm]

The Gangsta Rap is crap.That is true it is nothing but hoe this nigga that but there is rap that is not like that.in hollywood there are people that pass out cds for like 5 bucks.it usally isnt violent are anything but listen to that and you might see the diffrence.....well that might be bad to but somewhere out there there our people who give a positive message and even some mainstream artists do that.i used to think that all rock was people going ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whaaaaaaaarrrrrrr and just screaming why woulda wanna listen to something like that but of course it all isnt like that.it is kinda the same image that rap is given out right now.


Well that is my opinion on all this and yes i think rap is music.

[-N-]

"IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE"? What kind of ignorant <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">head says that?

[NorthernChaosGod]

"IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE"? What kind of ignorant <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">head says that?

Someone who doesn't want people to blindy speak because of their bias.

[DK]

"IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE"? What kind of ignorant <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">head says that?

Someone who doesn't want people to blindy speak because of their bias.

So everyone else can speak blindly in their bias against rap? Yeah, well done.

[I Am Stoner]

"IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE"? What kind of ignorant head says that?

Someone who doesn't want people to blindy speak because of their bias.

So everyone else can speak blindly in their bias against rap? Yeah, well done.

To be honest, that is exactly what I just thought. You need Both opinions to have a good debate going.

[themagicroundabout]

Now this is what I call rap music.

[I Am Stoner]

Now this is what I call rap music.

You are the biggest legend in the entire world for posting that. It made me laugh so hard.

[lovehurts]

Now this is what I call rap music.

THAT WAS RAW!!!

[Arrianna]

:laugh: I get sick for a few days and someone brings in pokeman! :laugh:

No worries Farplaner, I don't feel picked on.



It does seem that people aren't paying attention to what I actually said and are jumping to two conclusions.

1) I don't like rap

2) I don't know what I'm talking about.


so


1) I like rap, I hate gangsta rap and obsenities. Since the only artist I've found that don't employ at least one of those currently is Fresh Prince I just don't listen anymore.

2) Here's your education.

It has been pointed out that if you go to a dictionary you will find "rap music" defined as music. What is being failed to be mentioned is that "rap music" (quotes intended) is considered synonymous/identical with Hip-hop. If you can find a breakdown of the musical elements of Hip-hop (I found a really great one once but can't seem to find it again, anyone?) they will give you a breakdown of the style from the 4/4 beat to the backbeat to the swing. It will also mention optional elements like "scratching" and rap/"beatbox".

Now interestingly the word rap's original meaning was "to speak sharply" and rap is a synonym for "rhythm and poetry". If you take Hip-hop music and lay sharply spoken rhythem and or poetry over it then you have "rap music". Why the quotations? Because in the music world it is still Hip-hop music it is just Hip-hop with rap.

As such rap is not music anymore then spoken poetry in Æ¿æƒ2's example of beatnicks is music. It is spoken poetry. That's it. Since not all rap is cut to Hip-hop music I don't consider it to be music unless the Hip-hop music is present. Period.

And to back me up Public Enemy's Chuck D:
How Copyright Law Changed Hip Hop

Chuck D: Sampling basically comes from the fact that rap music is not music. It's rap over music.

[lovehurts]

"IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE"? What kind of ignorant <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">head says that?

I didnt think the thread was worth your frustrattion and anger. So I figured that if you did like rap it would be best you stayed out of the conversation..So yes I could get the response I wanted and to hate rap amongst fellow haters. I didnt want to read your hate text. I just wanted to hate.

Its kind of like when there's a girls only thread and then a guy enters....

Or it's like you walking into a concert that you really didnt want to go to and sitting threw the horrible music anyways and then complaining about it....

I just dont get you people. Im not ignorant you are just ....well I wont say.

[feona17]

Now this is what I call rap music.

Brilliant.

[Tavrobel]

Now this is what I call rap music.

, but Lazy Sunday is still better.

[NorthernChaosGod]

"IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE"? What kind of ignorant <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">head says that?

Someone who doesn't want people to blindy speak because of their bias.

So everyone else can speak blindly in their bias against rap? Yeah, well done.

Pretty much.

[Rosenti]

Raps awesome, but sometimes its abused to boreing music.

ive wrote some lyrics, check out at writers corner,

[salvaje]

I'd like to think myself unbiased on the subject of music (I listen to everything).

Rap is music. And there is talent in it.

Can you, Lady lovehurts, "spit" a five-versed rhyme at the drop of a hat? Can you make it sound good?

In some forms of rock, you have a singer that screams incomprehensible gibberish into a microphone - and is applauded. Ever heard of Cradle of Filth, or Slipnot? Linkin Park was an interesting mix of rock and rap; very interesting, indeed. Fall Out Boy made millions, and his vocal talent is zilch, if you compare. Have you ever heard of PANIC! @ the Disco? They sing-speak most of their lyrics.

And if it's the quality (that is, the nature of the lyrics), then, m'dear, there is absolutely no difference.

Rap, Rock, Country, and everything in between have one common ground - and that is, that every single genre has its share of "naughty" lyrics.

EXAMPLES:

• "You wanna f**k me like an animal!" Limp Bizkit, Hot Dog (also, I believe that was taken from a song by Nirvana.)
• "... as I tried to tell your dad it was your mouth that I was kissin'!" Nickelback, Animals.
• "I wanna f**k you in the a**!" (I forgot their name, but it's a rap/club song)

I could go on forever, but my point is - all forms of rhythm and sound is music; life, itself, is a musical.

You just need to have an ear for these things.

On a closing note, may I add... that if some people can call what they sing music (and I have heard some TERRIBLE voices in my day), then they have absolutely NO right on degrading anyone else their musical aptitude.

That is all.

Have a great day ^_^