Yeah, sure, but when was the last time you ate a chinchilla?I don't like the idea of hunting for sport. I support wearing fur (going back to the idea of using all of the animal).
Yeah, sure, but when was the last time you ate a chinchilla?I don't like the idea of hunting for sport. I support wearing fur (going back to the idea of using all of the animal).
i like to hunt for the chance to go back to my roots, to get into the great wilderness of my home, and for the chance to get the best meat in the world which is illegal to even buy
Basically you do it for fun.
so hunting an animal which has a free life, not in the horrible conditions you so vehemently oppose is wrong??
i'm sorry....i'll go shoot a cow in a pen next time
Animal testing upsets me in large amounts, but honestly and realistically, it's really the only way testing can be done, when it comes to serious medical purposes, like cancer testing. Granted, there ARE some alternatives that should be tried and used. Animal testing for cosmetic purposes pisses me off to no end and I think anyone who condones that is disgusting. There could be a lot less cruelty overall.
As for domestic animal cruelty, like one the cases of Animal Cops, I think that is completely disgusting, and to be perfectly honest, anyone who does stuff like that should have a hot poker shoved up their bum to feel what it is like. If you can't handle an animal, do not buy one. Simple as that. In some places, animal cruelty laws are not where they should be. On a TV special I watched, a man went under cover for a year in a place that was supposed to be some sort of an animal shelter in Arkansas, but it was nothing like that. They bought animals from dog mills, completely abused them (kicking them, smacking them, shooting them for fun, dunking them in bath water with lye or something), shot them for heartworms in their hearts to sell to medical labs, and generally did not feed them or clean them.Piles of dead corpses of dogs with ribs poking out were thrown into a ditch. And there are so many more horrible things that happened. I think that was the hardest thing for me to ever watch, I was sobbing by the end. And I was really mad because it took 5 years to close down, despite the man undercover having a YEAR'S worth of video and audio of the cruelty, all because the animal cruelty laws and police in Arkansas really couldn't give a care.
As for eating meat, I'm a vegetarian, but I was a meat eater my whole life previously. I am not at all someone who looks down on people who eat meat, because humans are omnivores, it's natural. I'm not hoping to influence anyone by my decision, nor would I ever go vegan or join the PETA or wear cow suits in front of steakhouses. I really just didn't feel like eating meat anymore, for me personally. And so long as cruelty is avoided where possible, as Mr. MILF put it, I really don't care about animals being eaten.
I didnīt said that i said you shouldnīt kill for pleasure.
and who are you jimmy to say what i feel
@ Rye: Some cruelty is unavoidable, most notably in medical testing circles, but cruelty of animals in private homes, on farms, for cosmetic testing, is abhorrent and the laws are not nearly strict enough.
Moreover animal cruelty in a young person can indicate very serious issues which could arise later - think of how many things you've read about horrific serial killers, which stated that as a child they often tortured or killed people's pets in the neighbourhood.
Well, the first two reasons do imply that you're enjoying it.i like to hunt for the chance to go back to my roots, to get into the great wilderness of my home, and for the chance to get the best meat in the world which is illegal to even buy
thats true, i do enjoy getting out in the the wilderness and feeling like i'm connecting with my ancestors. i'm not some wanton murderer who thinks about killing poor defenseless animals all the time
Letīs not get personal you said it yourself you like to hunt and as such you think itīs fun and have pleasure doing it am i wrong?Originally Posted by Araciel
it is personal...i enjoy the entire experience, you are not wrong if you agree with that but you said i enjoy killing...is it wrong to want to do something that helps me forget i'm perpetuating something you hate for any amount of time? i told you before these animals have a chance to live...these animals aren't diseased and genetically mutated for our benefit, these animals are not our slaves...i am going to cause the death of hundreds of innocent animals in my life regardless of what i do, so why not see first hand how it can be done with respect and reverence?
Last edited by Araciel; 09-08-2006 at 08:20 PM.
Agreed, Mr. MILF. When it comes to serious medical testing, some cruelty is inevitable, like you said. I would be a fool to say that serious medical animal testing, testing that could help cure AIDs and cancer and other terrible things, should be abolished, and I think that anyone that says it should be completely abolished is not thinking realistically. I think the benefit outweighs that, and like I said, there are some alternatives that I remember reading a while ago that could be considered in a few cases. But beyond that, cosmetic testing and cruelty of animals is disgusting and the laws have come a long way, but still have a lot of improving to do, especially in certain areas.
Killing animals for any other reason than to eat them is sadistic.
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agreed
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