The Best Final Fantasy?

[Pharoh Amon Khan III]

Okay, if you gonna talk about 'the best' without being biased, which you are, then what about the predecessor? I, II, III, IV, VI, VI?

Y'know graphics are all there is to it. The majority of you eye-candy hoars only got into Final Fantasy because FFVII showcased FMVs on the commercials and that only lead you to play to the next FMV not the story, which was good by the way. But you don't care about that do you? No, you only want to see the pretty colors...

Look at Dirge of Cerebus. All show and not game play. It's nothing more than a cinematic game like "God Of War".

those games should be considered, but the truth is that graphics isn't the only thing that was improved over the predecessors.

The storylines were alot deeper. The character interaction was much more life-like. The dialogue was more realistic.

And that's not even getting into the battles.

If you look at I-VI, you'll notice the games are very still - nothing moves. Sure the sprites in towns occasionally move left and right but it's very irregular. In the battles you fight still-life pictures of monsters, whereas most 16 bit games at the time were having animated enemies come to life.

the PS FF's, like it or not, changed all those things. It was the first time where Square basically stopped making the same game over and over again.

It's called imagination Johnny. If you ever read a book and it had illustrations... Do the pictures move? No. This is where the fun part of this thing that a lot of New Geners are lacking; it's called E-Ma-Gee-Nay-Shun.

[chrisfffan]

yea but its great when u have a good story and good graphics rather than a good story and rubbish graphics

[Goldenboko]

yea but its great when u have a good story and good graphics rather than a good story and rubbish graphics

:twak:

Story and gameplay are 100x more important then graphics! Stop treating them as equals!

Plus the old graphics weren't rubish, there is nothing rubish about 2-D.

[chrisfffan]

haha i cant win with you! the gameplay was great in FF8 too apart from drawing

[Goldenboko]

But failed in comparsion to that of FFIV, V ( I have FUN leveling up), and VII (I'd list more just not in the mood)...

The battle system was repititive, it was too easy, leveling up and draw was REALLY boring, but must be done if you want to beat Omega....

The graphics are really the only thing that beat other FFs.

[chrisfffan]

i think the love story was good

[Goldenboko]

FFIX's love story was MUCH better.
And FFVIII's love story is actually much more of a Fangirl attractor, to me FFVIII's love story sucked.
I mean COME ON....

Squall doesn't care about her,
She goes in coma, Squall is suddenly head over heals in love,
but when the get on the Ragnork BOOM! He ignores her again.

[chrisfffan]

he doesn’t come out of his shell till later on its realistic because he is shy sometimes when bad things happen to someone you realise how much you like them

[Bolivar]

It's called imagination Johnny. If you ever read a book and it had illustrations... Do the pictures move? No. This is where the fun part of this thing that a lot of New Geners are lacking; it's called E-Ma-Gee-Nay-Shun.

Absolutely.

Imagination is a big part of the magic of the earlier titles.

But I place a big emphasis on story, and one thing the latter games have is the more breathtaking sceneries that help illustrate the storyline.

Video games are a visual art, if rpgs were better off leaving it up to imagination they would still be making text-based RPGs, matter of fact, you'd be better off reading books.

But thats only one part of my post. character interaction, dialogue, backstory have all gotten progressively better.

Not only that, but the games are more entertaining to play.

Like Goldenboco said, Story + Gameplay are most important. you can't compare the 1st generation to the second.

[Pharoh Amon Khan III]

he doesn’t come out of his shell till later on its realistic because he is shy sometimes when bad things happen to someone you realise how much you like them

Oh gimme a break! He has no more affection for Rinoa than one would picking away at a scab. It bugs you at first, but when you start picking at it, and picking it, until you can't anymore or it's gone and then you miss it. But wait, here's another scab, or you missed a piece, yay!

Squall is loner and an a**hole. The game give you some text choice so that he'll stay true to type, but if you don't 'play nice' you won't get some bonuses. This is why I couldn't get into this game because it kept reminding me it was a game. The story is so badly executed and the game play and FMVs don't connect in the sense that you're lost in the story, but constantly reminded you're playing a game and not an interactive story.


And people that say "Oh, these characters are soooo much like real people. They think and react like real people would."

Oh FOR THE LOVE OF THE WIDOW, C'MON!!!!

Quistis is highly paid and trained MERCENARY and suddenly jeprodizes the mission to kill the Scourge of the Planet, SORCERESS Edea, to go an apologize to some ditzy girl she met less than 48 hours ago?

And within the span of 30 minutes or less, Squall is placed in Command of Balamb Garden and all it's staff, students, ect, and in the midst of the surprise attack by the Galbadian Garden's Forces, Squall HAS to be the one that rescues Rinoa? Here's how I saw this scene play out when I first played it....

SQUALL: "Sometime I swear I can hear God laughing at me. How am I supposed to handle this? I've got over two hundred-- Oops, now make that 198 students to look after and..."

????: "Squall! Squall! It's Rinoa!"

SQUALL: "Uh-huh, right on cue. What is it you fuggin' morons?!"

MORONS: "Squall it's Rinoa! You gotta rescue her!"

SQUALL: "What the-! Look around! Can't you see I'm busy trying to keep us ALL from being killed? There's like, what, six of you? And you can't think of a way to save her yourselves? One of you got a 12 foot chain whip for cryin' out loud! And YOU, you got that incredibly over-sized elongating nunchaku-things!

MORONS: "No, Squall, it's GOTTA be YOU that rescues her! ONLY YOU can do it!"

SQUALL: " ?!! Gotta be me-!? ... ... ... What the-! ... ... (sigh) Y'know, what? Something wrong with you... Something seriously wrong with the lot of you...

MORONS: "We'll handle things from here!"

SQUALL: Handle-! You mean like you did in Dollet!?!! Quistis, what is that, french for "Questionable Judgement"? God! No, wonder you got demoted! Hell, because of you screwin' up the Dollet Mission, I got shanked with an icicle! I'm still mad about that...just because of that I should crack your s**t !

MORONS: "Hurry Squall! We know you love her!"

SQUALL: ... Y'know what... I'm... I'm... I'm going... But if I get killed I'm coming back and f***in' you up!"

Well, that's pretty much it. Well, that an a lot of other scenes that these characters acted like 'real' people. Yeah, real DUMB people.

And Selphie! My god, this girl doesn't ever need to do drugs, because she's naturally high and stupid. Let's take a look at Trabia Garden.

GIRL: "Hi Selphie...

SELPHIE: Hey! How are doing?

GIRL: Whadda think? I just survived a nuclear strike on our home, and discovered I don't have to be afraid of the dark if I just wet the bed to make the sheet glow.

Selphie: Have you seen Mr. Bear?

GIRL: I dunno, at first I thought he boogied on down without warning us too, but then I found him over there... ANd there, and there, and oh yeah, over there too.

SELPHIE: Well, just remember to keep your spirits up.

GIRL: I see the spirits of the dead every night in this dump. And you're right, I guess the bright side is that I've started growing a mutated tail, and my third eye is just coming in.

SELPHIE: I gotta go now... See ya around. La la la la Train Train la la la...

GIRL: Yeah, buh-bye now, and if you can whatever vitamins you're taking in the morning... Send me some to so I can be as oblivious to the pain and suffering around me, k?


I'm gonna stop now... But 'real people'... Come-ON!

[chrisfffan]

you really are a plonker! the larst person who replied


if u played the game all the way through you would understand why squall was a lone wolf and why he eventually falls in love with Rinoa I think you should play the game again from the beginning and pay attention to the story!

[Goldenboko]

I payed attention to the story and I agree with Pharoh Amon Khan III...

Squall is suppose to be a lone wolf but, that doesn't mean he has to be an @##hole. Many character decisions don't make sense, the Quistis going to apolgize being one of them.

AND WTF IS A PLONKER?

[Pharoh Amon Khan III]

you really are a plonker! the larst person who replied


if u played the game all the way through you would understand why squall was a lone wolf and why he eventually falls in love with Rinoa I think you should play the game again from the beginning and pay attention to the story!

Listen up Haggis McGuiness, I DID play it again, you bloody puff! Not all the way through again, but... And it's the same thing! LOL... It's like I said... It keeps reminding you it's game instead of an interactive story!

My god! What does LOVE have to, have to do with it?! What's love, but second hand emotion... Love should have taken a backseat to this. I mean, their all 18 or close to it, but they talk like high school air-heads like the cast from 90210. Their more concerned with 'love' and 'fuh-rend-ship' than saving their lives.

Squall is introduced to us as a rebel both in and out of the classroom. He's the 'Dark Fonzie' of Balamb Garden when we first get to know him. So when it came to first dialouge choice to whether or not show Selphie around...

"I'm in a hurry... Quistis is waiting and grading me... Oh, why not. Surely I can spend the time to show her around, and (turns to the camera/audience) and at the same time show the rest of you the crib as well... C'mon everybody...

OR

"... ... Get a map. Take the elevator down, go down the stairs and there's this big diagram of the whole place. If that doesn't help you, call on the Lord. Gotta go."

SELPHIE: You're mean. You couldn't just show me arou-! (FACE SLAP!)

SQUALL: Look, this may be your first day here, so far I'm having a crappy day! See this indeliable mark of imperfection across my face? Yeah, I got this THIS MORNING... BEFORE BREAKFAST! To top that off, I got a screaming headache, I'm running late on my exams, and I got a field mission later on today! So if I'm being rude, or mean, because I'm pressed for time, tough tah-tahs!"


But of course if we want to stay true to type... We obviously pick the 'nice' option.

NOTE: I gotta let everyone no, that I'm not really getting irrate, I'm just expression my opinions in a comical rant... Much like one of my favorite comedians LEWIS BLACK.

[DfKimera]

I disagree with your point of view but your ironic translation of Squall is so funny! You should start a comic or somethind

[Pharoh Amon Khan III]

I disagree with your point of view but your ironic translation of Squall is so funny! You should start a comic or somethind

Thanks. But seriously, did you just think "WTF kinda choices are these?"

At least in FFVII you learned as you went seemlessly with the game. It didn't distract you.

FFVIII... Hmm... Okay, here's the story, I'm kinda more than confused... Oh, here's a part of the game to 'show me around'.