Quote Originally Posted by Pharoh Amon Khan III View Post
Ryushikaize... I'm trying to bring some sort of amelioration
to these discussions because all they seem to do is wind up being is closed.

I DON'T want to get into a fight with you. I really don't... But most of the time... All you ever seem to do is post REJECTION to anything anyone says to the matter and NEVER post anything ORIGINAL to the subject matter.

STOP DOING THAT!!! All it ever results in is flaming and name-calling. I swear to God, it's like you and yours only seem to LOOK for a fight and nothing else. Post something original, NOT a counter-post to other people, post your original thoughts on the subject matter. We were finally starting to get along and DISCUSS in that other thread about Guardian Forces and other mysteries, why stop there?

As you saw, I tried to be FAIR on both sides of the discussion; not favoring for either or.

And it's not just you Ryushikaize. I don't mean to single you out, but... I mean, OMG, it's never gonna fuggin' end, why are you people fighting over FANTASY... FANTASY... Even the MODS have been adamant about this when they close these threads... Just stop it.
Well, there technically is a rule against these sorts of posts... Though I think most of these types of threads gets closed for being either completely nonproductive, or flaming occuring.

Ryushikaize, by you saying this: "::Sigh:: Or there are the people who began from observation and tried to maintain the rational method in their analysis. "

It counters this, which you also said:

"'Squall did not die' does not need to be proven. It is the negative claim. 'Squall died and came back to life' is a positive claim, as is 'Squall died'. Positive claims need to be supported with evidence before you give them the time of day."
No, it doesn't. When I speak of positive and negative claims, I refer to rational reductionism, and positive claims (this is so) must be supported, and if they cannot be, then the negative claim (this is not so) is favored by default. Observation says that since Squall is up and well after each incident, the chances of him dying are slim, and him dying and coming back is a rather extraordinary claim, for which there is no supporting evidence.

All that says is that you don't agree with it, because it interferes with YOUR interpretation, YOUR belief, YOUR "Opinion" is "Law".

It's not. No one's is.
Actually, since it has no evidence, it is disfavored in favor of a more parsimonious claim, in this case, the negative.

I swear, you all sound like a bunch of "Religious Zealots"! You believe "This" but then someone else who believes otherwise either believes different, or that/you attack you/they and you/they have to "defend" your/their beliefs... It never ends.
Continuing the religious metaphor, what we are doing is the equivalent of asking someone for evidence that their flood myth, or claim about the composition of the cosmos (ex: perfect heavenly spheres)

It's FANTASY, and no matter what "evidence" ANYONE comes up with, there is nothing but assumption and interpretation... The ending has the most confusing visuals ever and no audio to give a definiative explaination of the ending. Just like with FFVII....
In a much lesser sense, all we have about reality is assumptions and interpretations. That does not keep us from coming up with the best guess.

Can you all PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! Just get the fug along? There is no reason to put down anyone on this... GAME of how they interpreted it.
It is not my intent to put anyone down, save perhaps FE, about this game. I merely wish for them to back up their views with empirical data, and become frustrated when they do not.

Squall died; Squall didn't die; Squall died and Rinoa used her Soreceress Power to bring her back... It doesn't matter.
This I'll grant, but then again, most of what we do here doesn't really matter.

The ideal, visuals, and vagueness of Time Compression and Sorceress Power leaves everything in this game/story open to speculation and therefore, there is no reason why people can't voice their views, opinions, and interpretations of how the ending occurred without getting into a "DEBATE" about it... It's Fantasy, and very poorly done in the tradition of Final Fantasy at that...
And there's also no reason we cannot employ rational reductionism to those explanations, either.

Now everbody kiss, hug, do a little dance, and make a lot of angry-make up love, and get down tonight... (sigh):eep:
angry make up sex sounds incredibly akward, though I'm sure listening in would be worth a few chuckles.

Quote Originally Posted by jammi567 View Post
what Pharoh Amon Khan III is very true. You're an annoying bastard with no original ideas. all you do is whine and complain, and make life a misery for the rest of us. :mad:
And that kind of posts, good child, are why these threads get closed. Care to apologize before a Mod wanders in?