*Sigh* That was listed for Kefka. And if your saying that Kefka looks gay then your saying clowns=Gay which isn't true. Besides appearence is just about the only thing Seph does win. Beuty is only skin deep... Evil pierces skin
*Sigh* That was listed for Kefka. And if your saying that Kefka looks gay then your saying clowns=Gay which isn't true. Besides appearence is just about the only thing Seph does win. Beuty is only skin deep... Evil pierces skin
I believe Rufus is more cynical. He wanted to rule with fear. Sephy want to rule with honor.
I don't care what you are doing, so much
as the idiotic way that you are doing it.
What exactly do you even mean by this? People hate Shuyin because he didn't exactly do much and only wanted destroy Spira because his girlfriend died. People hate Kefka as well because he always taunted you and outsmarts you all the time. Besides, if someone you knew in real life does stuff to make you hate him all the time, would you say he's a great villain? Or that he was evil? Your post is totally opinionated and judging by your posts, you are like many blind Sephy fans I see all the time.Originally Posted by chrisfffan
And somehow, I doubt you even played FFVI and didn't know who Kefka was until his name got mentioned.
understandable!
ha ha that wasn’t my post to begin with! look their are lots of good bad guys out there from the final fantasy series but I think Sephy comes out on top he’s the coolest and in the end the most evilest and understandable character in the series for me.
Sephiroth want to rule with honor?! Sephiroth want to destroy the planet!
And why many people say that he is not powerfull like the other villains? In the end of AC he is a god!
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IMO evil is suposed to be seductive: thats how people become evil as it is somthing desireable: if you wanted to be an evil bloke would you want to be A. a little man that has snide comments about him even by people under his own command throughout the game or a man who arguably has the biggest group of followers in the history of Final Fantasy: obviously 9 out of 10 people will choose the latter oh and BTW the light of judgement was a magical ability given to him from the statues which means yes any old joe could have done what he did.
Hey Pupu, just because people like Sephiroth, doesn't mean they are all just 'blind Sephy fan's'. Many people have very good reasons for liking Kefka, Kuja etc, and I respect that, and think they're both great villians, but I still like Sephiroth the most. You don't have to accuse people of being ignorant just because their opinion doesn't match yours.
PuPu is trying to say that most of the Seph post have been opinionated and haven't had reasons, which he is say is ignorant. Which I agree with. I think you should read the
He isn't just saying "You like Seph your dumb!" He's saying "Support your answer or I'm going to think your a Blind Sephy fan".
*skips in laughing*
You obviously never got past the Doma part. xDD Kefka played 'captain weakness' until he killed the emperor then pushes him off a flying island, gained god like status, destroyed 85% of the planet, and gained himself a cult.
Kefka basically has all the skills any one of the main characters in FFVI can get, if not more. People seem to forget that Celes and Kefka were raised the same with magic infused in them when they were children. Kefka had the light of Judgement, he would use it at any time for any lack of reason. Kefka was feared by the entire planet, It could possibly be because he had a cult and a tower that could basically see everything happening so no one was safe, or maybe it's because HE DID DESTROY 85% OF THE WORLD, GET A CULT, AND YOU COULD NEVER GET AWAY FROM HIM. Kefka was smart, He worked from the inside up, were as Sephiroth killed people on the inside then went on his own, Kefka used the Empire to his own benefit until he was able to gain ultimate power. The statues didn't give him power by the way, He moved them just to get the world off balance, then took some of their power, If you would have thrown Celes in the middle of those statues she would have been able to take their power as well.
And before anyone says "Oh well Sephiroth has a cult" Actually no, Sephiroth has a cult of experiments like him that really couldn't do much other than mumble incoherent words. Kefka on the other hand got a cult with people who figured it would be better to join him then die, since they've seen what he did to prolly everyone the people in the cult prolly knew.
I would have to agree with you there. Sephiroth wasn't honorable. He stabbed people in the back for crying out loud! Honorable? I think not.Sephiroth want to rule with honor?! Sephiroth want to destroy the planet!
And why many people say that he is not powerfull like the other villains? In the end of AC he is a god!
However, if you really look at it, nearly all the villans could be considered 'gods' from the criteria set up here. So in that case, Sephiroth isn't a pioneer.
Sephiroth didn't want to rule, He wanted to protect the promised land. As I said earlier, his veiws on good and evil were skewed, in his mind, him destroying the planet saves the Promised land because it's something he felt worth saving. His intentions were noble on another level of nobility. And yeah, The idea of 'becoming a god' has become something else at this point of the thread.
But back stabbing or not, Sephiroth did what he was doing to protect something, it's not like he was going around killing because he thought it was fun to kill, he was killing the things he veiwed as a threat to the promised land which happened to be everything in existance. He had no intentions as ruling as a god, and even if he did, he was smart which should have made him realize if you destroy existance (not to mention himself) there's nothing to rule.
You make a very good point Goldenboco, I won't deny that there are a lot of opinionated Sephy posts. The piece Pupu quoted was from chrisfffan, whose post wasn't entirely clear. However, chrisfffan had copied that from an earlier post by Sn4tch, who did have a reasoned post. I originally thought Pupu had quoted Sn4tch, and not chrisfffan. I now understand his point of view.
I honestly think every post that says "Sephiroth looks the coolest" or anything to the extent of 'looking cool' should be erased.
Good God man can you hear yourself? He didn't want to protect the Promised Land he wanted to get it. And when he couldn't get it, he decided that no one could have it. He is the most unoble jackass in the game. Killing flower girls by sabbing them in the back, trying to destroy the world because he couldn't get what he wanted, burning down towns.....must I go on? THAT is not noble. It's like killing the person you're guarding kind make the whole point moot, no? According to you, he's destroying what he wants to save, becuase it's in danger. IT'S IN DANGER BECUASE HE'S GOING TO DESTROY IT!!!!!! Mull over that a little and I'll get back to you.Sephiroth didn't want to rule, He wanted to protect the promised land. As I said earlier, his veiws on good and evil were skewed, in his mind, him destroying the planet saves the Promised land because it's something he felt worth saving. His intentions were noble on another level of nobility. And yeah, The idea of 'becoming a god' has become something else at this point of the thread.
But back stabbing or not, Sephiroth did what he was doing to protect something, it's not like he was going around killing because he thought it was fun to kill, he was killing the things he veiwed as a threat to the promised land which happened to be everything in existance. He had no intentions as ruling as a god, and even if he did, he was smart which should have made him realize if you destroy existance (not to mention himself) there's nothing to rule.
And by 'god' I mean, becoming so powerful it's nigh impossible to kill him.
But I do agree with you here. If one is going to argue, argue on reasonable facts, not personal opinion.I honestly think every post that says "Sephiroth looks the coolest" or anything to the extent of 'looking cool' should be erased.
I don't think you can write of looking cool that trivially. When you define 'best' villain what are you describing? Are you looking for most successful, most well developed? Then appearance is somewhat trivial.
However, I take 'best' to mean the villain that most enhanced your game playing experience. And to deny that appearance is a part of this is just plain ludicrous.
(Personally I think Kuja and Kefka were far better villain’s development wise; however neither of them I felt increased my enjoyment of the game as much as Sephiroth did.)
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