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    Quote Originally Posted by IceAngel View Post
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    If you do not bring Zell and just bring Quistis you won't have to fight any monsters until you reach Ultima Weapon where you can switch party members before the fight.
    What?! are you serious?????
    You mean I've been fighting annoying battles for all these years whenever I get to this point and I dont need to?!

    Yep. Also Enc-None doesn't work in the DSRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    No, I don't like when people try and criticize me without leg one to stand on.
    You have to open-minded when someone criticize you.
    For example you often criticize people without mercy.
    You want someone apologizes to you when he/she insulted you but in other hand you never say sorry to the person you have insulted.
    When the hell have I ever asked for an apology? No, really.

    At WORST, one of my three suffers from being unwieldy, and that's only if you assume we can't add digits to the front.
    We can assume anything if it comes to a theory.
    So if you assume my hypothesis has a flaw it does not have, it's unwieldy. Gotcha.
    As a side note, the more you assume, the worse your hypothesis. Parsimony.

    Facility? Unlikely. Deposit? Possibly. Not like it's impossible, what with all the Lunar cries throughout time.
    There's many old structures in DSRF.
    The structures existed before those DSRF people discovered it.
    Maybe Lunar Cry is an issue here but how can you prove it.
    I can't. But I don't need to. Because you see, I merely offered the Lunar cry as a possible reason why a city could be swept, mostly whole, into the sea. I have not said that it is.

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    When the hell have I ever asked for an apology? No, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    And that kind of posts, good child, are why these threads get closed. Care to apologize before a Mod wanders in?
    You see?
    But when you insult/mocking someone (i.e Viator,PAK,ect) you call names about them but you never say sorry.

    So if you assume my hypothesis has a flaw it does not have, it's unwieldy. Gotcha.
    As a side note, the more you assume, the worse your hypothesis. Parsimony.
    I never assume your hypothesis has a flaw,i only tell my opinion about your hypothesis but you overreacted about it.

    I can't. But I don't need to. Because you see, I merely offered the Lunar cry as a possible reason why a city could be swept, mostly whole, into the sea. I have not said that it is.
    You also think that there used to be a city?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    When the hell have I ever asked for an apology? No, really.
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    what Pharoh Amon Khan III is very true. You're an annoying bastard with no original ideas. all you do is whine and complain, and make life a misery for the rest of us. :mad:


    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    And that kind of posts, good child, are why these threads get closed. Care to apologize before a Mod wanders in?
    You see?
    But when you insult/mocking someone (i.e Viator,PAK,ect) you call names about them but you never say sorry.
    I only 'say names' about someone when I fully feel they deserve it, based on their history and/or lack of supporting evidence coupled with their insistence about their pet postulates. I'd also like to note that your only example of me 'demanding' an apology was more akin to a "Y'know, that kind of talk gets this sort of thing closed. You may wish to retract it before the swift hammer of justice arrives".

    I never assume your hypothesis has a flaw,i only tell my opinion about your hypothesis but you overreacted about it.
    How is it overreacting to ask you to explain how my idea is 'inconsistent', and later 'alterable' (which is a direct criticism of the hypothesis, which you cannot defend as 'just opinion'), then get miffed when you cannot actually explain what it inconsistent/ alterable about it?

    You also think that there used to be a city?
    I think it's possible it was a city. It's also possible it was a single edifice. I, however, do not feel there is sufficient evidence to decide what the original purpose of the Deposit was, save that it was an artificial creation.

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    I only 'say names' about someone when I fully feel they deserve it
    They deserve it?
    I am telling you now, you are not the one right person to judging someone.
    You are worse than anyone that you have insulted,i believe you can feel it too.
    What you deserve then? Glory,victory,proud because you feel like you are above them all?
    Then what about you, "the one who judging us" ,who are you?

    based on their history and/or lack of supporting evidence coupled with their insistence about their pet postulates.
    What your history then?
    You thought that your pet postulates superior than the others?
    You thought that you are always the right one?

    I'd also like to note that your only example of me 'demanding' an apology was more akin to a "Y'know, that kind of talk gets this sort of thing closed
    You cant even remember when you demanding someone to apologize to you now you are saying this to me?
    So far I see they closed some threads mostly because someone like you that always turn up the debate into war zone.

    You may wish to retract it before the swift hammer of justice arrives".
    I wish you will become more gentle and stop your sarcasms.

    How is it overreacting to ask you to explain how my idea is 'inconsistent', and later 'alterable' (which is a direct criticism of the hypothesis, which you cannot defend as 'just opinion'),
    You see?
    Now you are overreacting again, so demanding.
    Cant you ask it nicely?

    then get miffed when you cannot actually explain what it inconsistent/ alterable about it?
    I think i have explained it on post no 22,if you still dont satisfied with that you can say whatever you want.

    I think it's possible it was a city. It's also possible it was a single edifice. I, however, do not feel there is sufficient evidence to decide what the original purpose of the Deposit was, save that it was an artificial creation.
    After i think again i dont see Lunar Cry is the cause.
    Lunar Cry destroyed the civilization on Centra then how come It only sank a city into ocean without destroying the city into ashes.
    You can see the structure buildings are almost intact.
    I rather like to think that it was an island than only a city.
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    The Deep SEE research facility is really something more than meet the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    They deserve it?
    I am telling you now, you are not the one right person to judging someone.
    You are worse than anyone that you have insulted,i believe you can feel it too.
    What you deserve then? Glory,victory,proud because you feel like you are above them all?
    Then what about you, "the one who judging us" ,who are you?
    I'm worse? Because I demand evidence to support speculation? Because I demand rational deduction? Could you explain how I'm worse?

    based on their history and/or lack of supporting evidence coupled with their insistence about their pet postulates.
    What your history then?
    You thought that your pet postulates superior than the others?
    You thought that you are always the right one?
    Only when I have the evidence to support it, or parsimony to favor it.

    I'd also like to note that your only example of me 'demanding' an apology was more akin to a "Y'know, that kind of talk gets this sort of thing closed
    You cant even remember when you demanding someone to apologize to you now you are saying this to me?
    So far I see they closed some threads mostly because someone like you that always turn up the debate into war zone.
    Here's the trick. I wasn't demanding. I wasn't even actually asking to be apologized to, because to be frank, it doesn't matter to me. It does, however, seem to matter to the Moderators, who tend to close threads once flames are kindled. It was with the intent of keeping the discussion going that I suggested that jammi try and unsay what he had said.

    You may wish to retract it before the swift hammer of justice arrives".
    I wish you will become more gentle and stop your sarcasms.
    I haven't actually been sarcastic this entire exchange.

    How is it overreacting to ask you to explain how my idea is 'inconsistent', and later 'alterable' (which is a direct criticism of the hypothesis, which you cannot defend as 'just opinion'),
    You see?
    Now you are overreacting again, so demanding.
    Cant you ask it nicely?
    Pray tell, how is asking you to explain your reasoning 'demanding'?

    then get miffed when you cannot actually explain what it inconsistent/ alterable about it?
    I think i have explained it on post no 22,if you still dont satisfied with that you can say whatever you want.
    And I'm telling you have not explained it. You have said "Well, it could also be this", but have given no explanation as to why it could be either example, or why either of those is a superior explanation to the ones I offered.

    I think it's possible it was a city. It's also possible it was a single edifice. I, however, do not feel there is sufficient evidence to decide what the original purpose of the Deposit was, save that it was an artificial creation.
    After i think again i dont see Lunar Cry is the cause.
    Lunar Cry destroyed the civilization on Centra then how come It only sank a city into ocean without destroying the city into ashes.
    You can see the structure buildings are almost intact.
    I rather like to think that it was an island than only a city.
    The Lunar Cry impacts the ground. Given sufficient force, it could cause an earthquake, loosening a seaside structure and causing it to fall into the sea, if, indeed, the cry is the cause. Though, I have no idea why you would think an impactor would necessarily turn a city to ash, especially since it left several ruins mostly intact, and since when we saw it during the course of the game, there was nothing involved but repeated Kinetic Energy transfers.
    Last edited by Ryushikaze; 11-28-2006 at 10:00 PM.

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    I'm worse? Because I demand evidence to support speculation? Because I demand rational deduction? Could you explain how I'm worse?
    NO,because You often tell [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] about people that you dont like, you only look the negative sides about someone, using those negative sides on your purposes against them whenever you have a chance.
    Want me to continue?

    Only when I have the evidence to support it, or parsimony to favor it.
    Glad to hear that.

    Here's the trick. I wasn't demanding. I wasn't even actually asking to be apologized to, because to be frank, it doesn't matter to me. It does, however, seem to matter to the Moderators, who tend to close threads once flames are kindled. It was with the intent of keeping the discussion going that I suggested that jammi try and unsay what he had said.
    Your trick accepted.

    I haven't actually been sarcastic this entire exchange.
    Not to you but to me.

    Pray tell, how is asking you to explain your reasoning 'demanding'?
    You tell me!

    And I'm telling you have not explained it. You have said "Well, it could also be this", but have given no explanation as to why it could be either example, or why either of those is a superior explanation to the ones I offered.
    Of course your explanation is better than mine about yours.
    I show you why it can be alterable.
    Yours YDDD
    Mine about yours YYDD

    Lunar Cry impacts the ground. Given sufficient force, it could cause an earthquake, loosening a seaside structure and causing it to fall into the sea, if, indeed, the cry is the cause.
    Without destroying the city?
    Lunar Cry should destroy that city into ruins if that the case but you can see many buildings in DSRF are almost intact.

    Though, I have no idea why you would think an impactor would necessarily turn a city to ash, especially since it left several ruins mostly intact, and since when we saw it during the course of the game, there was nothing involved but repeated Kinetic Energy transfers.
    "turn a city to ash" that is only a metaphora.
    Last edited by Evol; 11-29-2006 at 12:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    NO,because You often tell [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] about people that you dont like, you only look the negative sides about someone, using those negative sides on your purposes against them whenever you have a chance.
    Want me to continue?
    Well, I certainly want you to provide evidence of these accusations. While I admit that I don't operate with kid gloves, Ad Homming is not my style.

    Glad to hear that.
    Glad that you understand it.

    Your trick accepted.
    Shall we move on, then?

    Not to you but to me.
    I think we may have hit a language barrier here, but Sarcasm is entirely the domain of the one being sarcastic, since it is the art of saying something one obviously does not mean, usually with an obvious verbal or colloquial clue.

    You tell me!
    Except you're the one who was calling what I was doing 'demanding', so if anyone could tell how it is so, it should be you.

    Of course your explanation is better than mine about yours.
    I show you why it can be alterable.
    Yours YDDD
    Mine about yours YYDD
    No, that's an example of a way in which it can be alterred. Not a reason why it should be. I can also give a reason why it should not. Being that it only has two "day" digits, it can only count up to 99 out of 365 days, or 9 out of 365 in the case of YYYD, which only has one. YDDD can only count to a total of 10 years (beginning from year 0 and ticking over to 1 on day 366, or using 0 to indicate year 10 if starting with year 1), but can very easily be adusted to count additional years by adding a new digit to the left. Slightly clonky, but usable without too much issue, and it guarantees no duplicate dating.

    Meanwhile, your method MDDY has two issues about numbering. The first is that with only one month digit, you cannot express all months in the year. The second it also cannot count past 10 years, and adjustments for these (involving adding additional digits to either M or Y) will result in duplicate entries, for example, 10216 could either be Jan 2nd, year 16, or Oct 21st, year 6.

    Without destroying the city?
    Lunar Cry should destroy that city into ruins if that the case but you can see many buildings in DSRF are almost intact.
    Not if the Cry does not impact the city itself, but causes the shockwaves which cause a cleavage of a rock plane, and a loosening of the city/structure.

    Though, I have no idea why you would think an impactor would necessarily turn a city to ash, especially since it left several ruins mostly intact, and since when we saw it during the course of the game, there was nothing involved but repeated Kinetic Energy transfers.
    "turn a city to ash" that is only a metaphora.
    Noted, but you should probably try and avoid metaphor when trying to describe a mechanism.
    Last edited by Ryushikaze; 11-29-2006 at 11:37 PM.

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    Does Evol sound like Viator with slightly better English language skills?

    Just a thought.

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    Well, I certainly want you to provide evidence of these accusations. While I admit that I don't operate with kid gloves, Ad Homming is not my style.
    Come on you can provide it for yourself without my help.

    Glad that you understand it
    But dont you always think that your explanation is better than anyone else.

    Shall we move on, then?
    Not until you say sorry to the person you have insulted.
    Oh let me guess, they dont deserve it, or because you are too arrogant or too pride to yourself until you cant say sorry.

    I think we may have hit a language barrier here, but Sarcasm is entirely the domain of the one being sarcastic, since it is the art of saying something one obviously does not mean, usually with an obvious verbal or colloquial clue.
    Forget it.

    Except you're the one who was calling what I was doing 'demanding', so if anyone could tell how it is so, it should be you.
    So you never felt that you are demanding person.

    No, that's an example of a way in which it can be alterred. Not a reason why it should be. I can also give a reason why it should not. Being that it only has two "day" digits, it can only count up to 99 out of 365 days, or 9 out of 365 in the case of YYYD, which only has one. YDDD can only count to a total of 10 years (beginning from year 0 and ticking over to 1 on day 366, or using 0 to indicate year 10 if starting with year 1), but can very easily be adusted to count additional years by adding a new digit to the left. Slightly clonky, but usable without too much issue, and it guarantees no duplicate dating.

    Meanwhile, your method MDDY has two issues about numbering. The first is that with only one month digit, you cannot express all months in the year. The second it also cannot count past 10 years, and adjustments for these (involving adding additional digits to either M or Y) will result in duplicate entries, for example, 10216 could either be Jan 2nd, year 16, or Oct 21st, year 6.
    Dont get me wrong, i agree with your idea.

    Not if the Cry does not impact the city itself, but causes the shockwaves which cause a cleavage of a rock plane, and a loosening of the city/structure.
    There's still oxygen in the bottom of DSRF.
    How can oxygen still remain in the ocean floor for a a long time?

    Noted, but you should probably try and avoid metaphor when trying to describe a mechanism.
    I thought you can understand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G SpOtZ View Post
    Does Evol sound like Viator with slightly better English language skills?

    Just a thought.
    To G SpOtZ = I have no idea but Evol should be stop fighting with Ryushikaze before the MODS could see this thread, otherwise it will be lock.

    To Evol = as Ryushikaze said...
    you're the one who was calling what I was doing 'demanding', so if anyone could tell how it is so, it should be you.
    You have not explain anything why you would stated to Ryushikaze at all. If you think Ryushikaze is bad, then you no diffent from Ryushikaze so stop bick'in eachother!

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    I am tired on EoFF as well.
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    I am tired in EoFF as well
    I carry these memories inside, thoughts of A Soul colored by love and loneliness ~ Evol

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    Are you tired of Eoff as WELL?

    Thank you Hysterian!

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