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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze View Post
    Yes. In regards to this scene, Nomura said he was glad he was able to show Aerith 'getting through' to Kadaj, so that he 'could find his redemption'. Definitely suggest psychological, rather than mechanistic happenings.
    The word "suggest" is very important here. And can you show to me what exactly is said in this part?

    And what was its overall effect? Nada.
    How you know? The scene change to the fight between Cloud and Sephiroth, but who said that nothing happened during it. Sephiroth's plan(that he planed during two years) was to use the tainted one, and destroy the planet. He said this to Cloud before the fight. But when he finally summon all the tainted one, nothing happened, just because the scene changed?!
    Is like if a guy said to another, that he puted a bomb in a building(in another place). Then we see the bomb in "3...2...1", but then the scene change back to the two guys. You think that the bomb didn't exploded just because the scene changed?

    Yes, but possible isn't proof.
    The same to you.

    Just because you control something does not make you more powerful than it. Control is not always about power. In this case, it is about infection, by taking the weak wills of those dead from lifestream. Most likely, he controls the stream by telling willless dead folk to 'push', the same way it came out at the end of FF7
    Sephiroth didn't just controll it, the tainted one was completely corrupted by Jenova, and in AC, Sephiroth's entire body was made of Jenova cells. The tainted Lifestream was practicaly, part of himself.

    And considering my interpretation does not require an additional hoop to jump through, and looking through, and has support from Reunion files (specifically when they are discussing that scene, and say Aerith 'got through' to him and helped him find redemption), parsimony favors it. Yours, "Great Gospel is responsible, and the reason why it doesn't seem to have an effect is, because, um..."
    I already knew about this part in the RF. But like you said "considering my interpretation...". Yeah exactly, your interpretation, not your fact. Just because Nomura said that he wanted to give Kadaj a moment of redemption before his dead, doesn't mean that he died because of Aerith's voice.

    Because I don't feel like flipping through 100 some pages just to show that you're full of it when you haven't even given us proof one, for one. For two, because YOU need to use it to substantiate your claim.
    Exactly, you don't feel like flipping through 100 some pages(divided in chapters/topics) to prove your point. And you want me to agree with what you say because? If you can prove that you are right, then use the book and prove it. I already said that i cannot prove because i'm only using what i heard, but you can, then why you don't do it? I didn't knew that you have the book, so, when i readed what you writed, i thought that was only your opinion. If you said something like "this is in the RF" then i would not discuss with you.

    Use the RF, and prove that i'm wrong then.
    I'm not the only one that have to prove my point.

    That's not how it works at all, child. Until you provide me with the relevant citation, I have no reason to believe what you say.
    And on a look through the relevant parts, I have even less reason to believe you.
    Yeah, that's not how it works at all. You want me to prove my point, but you you don't feel like proving yours.

    Say what? This you'll definitely have to give a source on.
    "Producer Kitase decided that they couldn’t make any other character stronger than Sephiroth in the world of FFVII."-Found in the AC director's commentary from the JP DVD

    So, wild, baseless claims, basically. Gotcha. For all you know, Omega could rip the lifestream out of Sephy's grasp, and purify it lickety split, if it were not dormant during the years between 7 and AC. It also is worth noting that stagnant Mako generally does not come about naturally.
    Read the topic above.

    No, Kefka made a planet very sad. Kuja planetbusted.
    Kuja planetbuted? I don't remember of seeing that? Proves, please.

    Because until recently, I had no idea what your supposed source was.
    But now that you know, you can use it in this thread, to make our life easy. I respect the facts and the official word of SE. If you want me to shut up, just use the RF to prove that i'm wrong.



    What i wanted to prove with all this discussion, is that Sephiroth is the most powerful being in FFVII universe.

    "Producer Kitase decided that they couldn’t make any other character stronger than Sephiroth in the world of FFVII."-Found in the AC director's commentary from the JP DVD

    This the prove. If you don't like it, this is your problem.
    Last edited by The Crystal; 12-01-2006 at 07:57 PM.

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