[qq=Besimudo]It is too bad that the people of the south were not warned about the hurricanes.[/qq]
Are you referring to Katrina? They were warned. There was poor planning and poor reaction, but the fact that they had any warning at all is thanks to science. Would a guy "going with the moment" have done better? This is absurd to the point that I can hardly discuss it seriously.

[qq]Also, you cannot ignore the fact that Aluminium was a significant change in industrial chemistry. Both scientists were born in the same year, discovered the same process in the same year, and, also died in the same year.

Strange?[/qq]
Strange as in coincidence, sure. But it doesn't mean anything. Human beings are good at finding patterns even when no underlying cause exists. It's a survival trait. Not every pattern is an indication of something significant.

To claim that some otherworldly force had something to do with the inventions of these people takes credit away from two resourceful and intelligent people who probably deserve it.

[qq]Already, the biologists have control of humankind’s embryos: to improve our lives? No, to make a profit! [/qq]
Surely the life of a person who can't otherwise conceive a child is improved when science enables it. Surely the child itself who would otherwise never have been born would be grateful. If you think life is not improved by science, feel free to live as our ancestors did. I don't think you'll have time for posting in this thread though, you'll be too busy trying not to starve to death, and probably dead before you're 30. Unless you believe astrology can provide you with a computer.

[qq]If you do not believe in Astrology, well I don't believe in modern medicine when it acts as a vector for pathogens and inadvertently kills.[/qq]
You're free not to believe in medicine. I wouldn't place bets on your outliving someone who does. You can deny reality all you want, but reality has a way of being real whether you care about it or not.

I don't believe in astrology because it's bunk. It's wishful thinking.

[qq]At the end of the day, we need to challenge ideas; otherwise we cement our feet in reality … whatever that is.[/qq]
Sure, challenge ideas. Some ideas are more worth challenging than others. Challenge for the sake of challenge is pointless and ridiculous. Do you challenge that the sun will rise tomorrow? I would not want to live life constantly bewildered and unable to understand anything around me, and thankfully I don't have to. There comes a point where denying reality crosses the line into insanity.