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    Crystalis is my favorite NES game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    Crystalis is my favorite NES game
    Crystalis is the shyte!

    but anyways, I kinda liked Celes, if only for her hotness opera outfit and such. (SPOILER)MMM celes/terra hentai lawl

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    I've now been inspired to power up the NES. *Plays Crystalis*

    I want to know what happens later in the game without Celes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djibriel
    8.7 Kutan?
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    Hardly a frequently asked question, I didn't know where else to stick it :\

    [KUTAN-LINK]

    Note that this entire section wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Novalia Spirit,
    who really deserves a lot of credit for the discovery of this thing alone,
    not to mention the over 100 bugs he found and the breaking down of the Mag
    Roader puzzle.

    Internet rumors speak of reviving Leo and/or acquiring Kappa the Imp. Reviving
    Leo is impossible and Kappa is just an Imped character with the Kappa name and
    a set of equipment you give to him. No, the only character that comes close to
    somehow being the 15th character is Kutan, one of the minor Moogles who helped
    you defend Terra! How is this possible? Read on.

    You never really acquire Kutan at any point of the game. Rather, you allow the
    game to reach for a character you were supposed to have but never did. In
    Locke's scenario, the trick is to leave South Figaro *without* saving Celes
    from her terrible fate. Obviously, this isn't normally possible as you at the
    very least need the Clock Key to continue, which you can't get until you
    release Celes.

    But you don't have go that far. You know the 'scram, you blockhead' soldier
    that was chasing Locke at the very beginning of the scenario and continued to
    promptly forget about him? We have to pass him. We do this by exploiting a
    poorly coded aspect of the game. We'll have to send both Locke and the trooper
    at the same tile. If this succeeds, Locke passes *through* the trooper and is
    free to leave South Figaro. Sadly, the game normally prevents this. However,
    if you enter the menu screen, leave it and immediately try to possess the same
    tile the trooper is going for, it'll work. It might fail a few times, but it
    does work. If you want to, you can enter the tunnel you were supposed to enter
    with Celes from the other side by entering the hidden back door in the house
    of Duncan's Wife; this'll get you the treasure contained here. Make sure not
    to wander OUT of this basement on the other side; you can't get back in without
    the Clock Key, which you can't get without recruiting Celes.

    Now, the second part of the problem lies in Locke having to fight through the
    Cave of Figaro by himself and defeating TunnelArmr by himself, a battle which
    is scripted and was designed to require the Runic skill which you lack now.
    You'll have to powerlevel a little or abuse the Thunder Rod in the chest if
    you want to make it through here.

    This is the first time Kutan will make a small appearance; it will be him who
    will do the 'Something's coming outta the wall!!' line. During the battle, no
    name will be shown when the Runic speech is given (Just you watch, etc.).

    Back in Narshe, Locke will appear with a comrade, but it's not Celes; Kutan,
    Moogle sprite and all, will appear and do everything Celes does. Do the
    expressions, say the lines, etcetera.

    KUTAN: I'm a soldier, not some love-starved twit!
    EDGAR: Cold as ice......

    While preparing for Kefka's Raid on Narshe, it turns out Kutan hasn't changed
    a bit; his level hasn't risen, his equipment and Relics is still off-limits,
    he still has a MithrilBlade and a Buckler and nothing else and he's in the same
    state you left him. You can't take him to the Save Point; the character you're
    controlling immediately resets back to Terra and Kutan enters the line of
    characters again. In the line of characters, by the way, Kutan momentarily
    changes his Moogle sprite for the Celes one.

    After the battle, Kutan is normally choosable in your party, although he walks
    around like Celes in the room. Kutan doesn't appear in shop screens either.
    You can just go on with the game until the Opera House; Kutan will change into
    Maria's opera gown and get the normal opera Celes sprite. Also, his equipment
    will be removed, which is bad as you can never get it back on. After that,
    he's given the normal Celes sprite. It's still Kutan though.

    The story continues, and at the Imperial MagiTek Research Facility Kutan is
    taken from you, not to be returned until you gain access to the Floating
    Continent. It's at this point that you can finally return to South Figaro and
    try to find Celes there; the game will lock up as soon as you pass the room
    where Celes is getting a beating. Locke (whether he is in your party or not)
    will say his line, and screen will switch to the room, and stop proceeding
    there.

    If you don't bring Kutan to the FC, he'll join you there to stop Gestahl. He
    and Shadow fail, you make a run for it, kaboomchy, WoR.

    Kutan wakes up in the WoR, from which points it's all Kutan until the end. The
    only noteworthy effect Kutan has on the WoR is Gogo missing Runic is an option.

    Ofcourse, Kutan is a consistently poor character to fight with. He joins you in
    the middle of the Narshe Raid at a very low level, his equipment consists of a
    MithrilBlade and a Buckler and cannot be changed until he Opera House from
    which point he's entirely naked, he doesn't have any skills, he can't equip
    Relics, he can't equip Espers and learn or use Magic and his stats are
    extremely poor:

    Vigor 16
    Speed 14
    Stamina 12
    Magic Power 33
    Battle Power 21
    Defense 44
    Magic Defense 29
    MBlock 5
    Evade 7

    But still, it's absolutely hilarious to see Locke go protective on Kutan, have
    a Moogle lament 'her' position in the Empire and 'her' history as a Magic
    wielder, and have Owzer claim 'she' looks exactly like Maria.

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    By the way, it's Moghan for the US release.

    Also, it's notable that you can also keep Locke's merchant or imperial cadet sprite if you want.

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