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    For a lot of people, Halo was the literal definition of "next-gen". The Pillar of Autumn was the best opening level to any game I'd ever played (Probably still is). The FPS genre doesn't have a huge amount you can really do with it - it's all gonna be the same old . You run, you shoot stuff. 90% of any extra stuff is gimmicky crap that won't matter if the game itself isn't solid. But Halo did the same old in a retardedly expert manner, and at the time what it did was so shiny that it was doing new things - it was an FPS on an epic scale. Some popular games are overrated, certainly. And some games really are as good as everyone says. The original Halo is one of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
    For a lot of people, Halo was the literal definition of "next-gen". The Pillar of Autumn was the best opening level to any game I'd ever played (Probably still is). The FPS genre doesn't have a huge amount you can really do with it - it's all gonna be the same old . You run, you shoot stuff. 90% of any extra stuff is gimmicky crap that won't matter if the game itself isn't solid. But Halo did the same old in a retardedly expert manner, and at the time what it did was so shiny that it was doing new things - it was an FPS on an epic scale. Some popular games are overrated, certainly. And some games really are as good as everyone says. The original Halo is one of these.


    And even if you don't like Halo, you can't deny the game's importance. Pretty much every single console FPS made since Halo's release has borrowed heavily from it, and iit's no coincidence that any half-decent shooter that comes along is referred to as a "Halo-killer". Most importantly, it put the X-Box on the map and helped it through its difficult formative stages, and thus made a massive contribution to Microsoft's entry into the console market. Oh, that and it's the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Though I would generally jump on the FFVII band wagon on this one, I feel I need to point out the other overrated FF game. (Holmes beat me to it though ) and it would be FFX.

    I can't understand why people love this game. It's an interactive movie with linear dungeons that are there for the sole reason for getting you from Cutscene A to Cutscene B. Half it's cast is just poorly written while the other half is just unlikable, and it's story is riddled with pointless plot devices that do nothing more than convulate the plot while adding nothing to it as a whole. I still believe that FFX is Squenix's tech demo for the PS2. It was only made to show what the PS2 was capable of, not to actually create a good game or story.
    I have to disagree with this. I thought X had by far the best characters, plot, and most importantly gameplay* of any FF to date, and still does. It was horrendously linear, I can't deny that, and I think that works strongly against it. But I think it's the best work Square's done on the series to date, tbh.

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    To be honest, I'm really not a big fan of FFX. The sphere grid is one of the worst ideas ever, as was the thought that players would like to have to switch out characters all the time. Moreover, I simply can't bring myself to plug in my PS2 to play FFXII--I haven't played it in weeks because I didn't find it enjoyable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    For a lot of people, Halo was the literal definition of "next-gen". The Pillar of Autumn was the best opening level to any game I'd ever played (Probably still is). The FPS genre doesn't have a huge amount you can really do with it - it's all gonna be the same old . You run, you shoot stuff. 90% of any extra stuff is gimmicky crap that won't matter if the game itself isn't solid. But Halo did the same old in a retardedly expert manner, and at the time what it did was so shiny that it was doing new things - it was an FPS on an epic scale. Some popular games are overrated, certainly. And some games really are as good as everyone says. The original Halo is one of these.
    Throw me in the "Halo is overrated" camp please. Funny you should mention the opening level; frankly it bored the crap out of me like the rest of the game. Nothing Halo did was done exceptionally well. The core gameplay (and by this I mean the controls and weapons) were done reasonably well for a console FPS, but I found the level design, particularly later in the game, horribly boring and repetitive. Throw in AI that wasn't half as amazing as many people liked to claim it was (enemies really had no clue what to do if you were fighting them at close range most of the time), and vehicle and weapon designs that weren't particularly original, or interesting, and you have a mediocre FPS at best. For a console FPS, it's pretty decent, but overall, it doesn't even come close to the likes of Half-Life 2.

    And so everyone knows, I have played through the vast majority of the game, and played multiplayer extensively with friends of mine, so my opinion is based on my own experience with the game.

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    Final Fantasy VI. The characters weren't close to being as great as people made them out to be, the game was too easy, the music was average, the story wasn't exciting, the world looked bland and many towns looked the same, the Esper system was a bad customization system, and character individuality was gone from battles once you learned powerful spells.

    Final Fantasy XII. Boring characters, boring story, boring world, boring gameplay, boring music. Boring.

    Xenogears. The battle system was downright crappy (both on land and in gears), the story tried too hard to make itself look important and intriguing (surprisingly, I liked Disc 2 because of how toned down the presentation was), the main characters weren't likable, the support crew didn't get enough story time, and the music was terrible, save for a few pieces.

    Shadow of the Colossus. I like it, but all you really do is fight 15 bosses and explore the world. The story, although simple, and music are exceptionally good on the other hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post

    I have to disagree with this. I thought X had by far the best characters, plot, and most importantly gameplay* of any FF to date, and still does.
    You're joking, right? FFX had probably the most botched/half-assed gameplay ever. Linear dungeons, easy battles, the whole game is just one long adventure from point A to point B.

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    Metal Gear Solid 1, 2 and 3
    I too really tried to enjoy them. I completed 1 and 2 and played around 4 hours of the 3rd one but I just dont enjoy them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odaisé Gaelach View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croyles View Post
    Metal Gear Solid 1, 2 and 3
    I too really tried to enjoy them. I completed 1 and 2 and played around 4 hours of the 3rd one but I just dont enjoy them...
    I kinda know what you mean. Whenever I play the MGS series, I get bored out of my mind. But, when I watch my brother play it, I get into it and really love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erdrick Holmes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post

    I have to disagree with this. I thought X had by far the best characters, plot, and most importantly gameplay* of any FF to date, and still does.
    You're joking, right? FFX had probably the most botched/half-assed gameplay ever. Linear dungeons, easy battles, the whole game is just one long adventure from point A to point B.
    I don't need to point out the irony to everyone, do I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    For a console FPS, it's pretty decent, but overall, it doesn't even come close to the likes of Half-Life 2.
    Thanks for reminding me! The Half-Life series is [strike]massively[/strike] considerably overrated Completely forgot about that. I edited it, you may note; I don't think they're bad games by any remote stretch of the imagination. But I also don't think they're the genre-defining epic adventures many portray them as.
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    Half Life 2 is massively overrated. The first deserves all its praise.

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