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    Resident Evil. All of them. I do not understand the appeal in those games at ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auragaea View Post
    Final Fantasy VI. The characters weren't close to being as great as people made them out to be, the game was too easy, the music was average, the story wasn't exciting, the world looked bland and many towns looked the same, the Esper system was a bad customization system, and character individuality was gone from battles once you learned powerful spells.
    Agreed.

    FFX had the best battle system in any of the FF's so far, imho. I wouldn't say it's the best game overall, but definitely one of the better efforts.

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    For a lot of people, Halo was the literal definition of "next-gen". The Pillar of Autumn was the best opening level to any game I'd ever played (Probably still is). The FPS genre doesn't have a huge amount you can really do with it - it's all gonna be the same old . You run, you shoot stuff. 90% of any extra stuff is gimmicky crap that won't matter if the game itself isn't solid. But Halo did the same old in a retardedly expert manner, and at the time what it did was so shiny that it was doing new things - it was an FPS on an epic scale. Some popular games are overrated, certainly. And some games really are as good as everyone says. The original Halo is one of these.
    Throw me in the "Halo is overrated" camp please. Funny you should mention the opening level; frankly it bored the crap out of me like the rest of the game. Nothing Halo did was done exceptionally well. The core gameplay (and by this I mean the controls and weapons) were done reasonably well for a console FPS, but I found the level design, particularly later in the game, horribly boring and repetitive. Throw in AI that wasn't half as amazing as many people liked to claim it was (enemies really had no clue what to do if you were fighting them at close range most of the time), and vehicle and weapon designs that weren't particularly original, or interesting, and you have a mediocre FPS at best. For a console FPS, it's pretty decent, but overall, it doesn't even come close to the likes of Half-Life 2.

    And so everyone knows, I have played through the vast majority of the game, and played multiplayer extensively with friends of mine, so my opinion is based on my own experience with the game.
    In my opinion Milf is right you are wrong. Halo was exceptionally well executed the fact that it comes along a good few years before Half-life 2 proves another thing, Milf was right when he said any half decent fps since halo has borrowed heavily from it, Half-life 2 borrowed from Halo, then again it admitted the borrowing most designers would be a fool not to say "hey we saw that this game is loved so we tried looking at what makes it loved and work something out for our game to hopefully give it the same desirability." As for AI in halo, did you even try Legendary? it was insanely difficult. I loved the challenge of it and the AI was pretty intelligent for the time, how many times did you get a new fps out the box and see enemy troops run blindly in to the grenade you threw not caring that in ohhh...*booom* seconds the grenade will explode killing them prior to Halo? Quite a lot of it actually. Halo also made it fun to play FPS games it wasn't like the awful rendition of quake 3 on PS2 where you just fought bots in the levels. It was beautiful I still play Halo 1 and Halo 2 and will definitely buy a 360 for 3 even if it's the only game I want for it.

    Personally I am going to agree with Milf again on Half life series being overrated. I found it dull mind destroyingly dull. I loved Counterstrike when I used to play it but even that got taken over by people who saw it for more than just a bit of fun. I tried to complete Half-life 1 and failed completely not 'cause I couldn't do it, that wasn't the problem it was because I couldn't find the will to beat it I was so bored.

    Another genre of overrated games in my eyes is wrestling games, they're games based around fat greasy men in speedos grappling with each other in what can only be described as an all too homo erotic way. Each one is repeated every year with the same dumb moves in it in the same dumb button sequence the only difference is the speedos change by a half tone of colour. The story lines suck and just why? Ok so maybe I dislike wrestling and football and could sit here bashing away at them both for hours if not days on end but still. It doesn't need to have a new wrestling game out every year and the fact that there is more than one each year is simply blatant money grabbing, they know people are dumb enough to buy it even if there is no changes from the last one they'll buy it because the box changed colour.

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    I don't see how anyone can complain about the graphics or music in Final Fantasy VI. Both were phenomenal. Especially the music.

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    ...the game was too easy...
    I'd agree that the game is pretty easy, after I've cleared it so many times. But in actuality, which of the Final Fantasies actually are difficult? RPGs generally aren't very difficult games to begin with (difficulty is different from tediousness).

    Quote Originally Posted by Roto13
    I don't see how anyone can complain about the graphics or music in Final Fantasy VI. Both were phenomenal. Especially the music.
    I would have to agree. O_o

    At any rate, I don't really find any games overrated. I don't believe in 'overrated' or 'underrated'. I believe that people like and dislike games and have their own opinions. There are enough people that'll dislike and like any game, so how can any of them be 'over/underrated'?

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    My list of overrated titles.

    God of War: Awesome boss battles, but everything else was pretty much Devil May Cry, with topless hotties and less battle options. The ability to do a 100 hit combo does not a deep combat system make.

    Halo: Had it's moments, but the whole thing was repetitious as hell. The only way I knew I was moving in the right direction during some of those levels were the fact that I kept running into new enemies. The enemies, weapons, and level layouts were all done long before halo, just without the high production values.

    FFVII: Cloud and Sephiroth are the definition of overrated. Boo hoo, seph killed Aerieth and hid in a hole for the rest of the game. Boo hoo, poor clouds peasent village. I'm sorry, this game got it's rep based on looks alone.

    Resident Evil 4: Not an overly bad game, but not the quantum leap everyone made it out to be. How come there was no strafe or dodge options, seemed like the same ol crap just with a few upgrades to me.

    GTA III and every rockstar title after: revolutionary for its time, now it's just a redundant, virtual gangsta, paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishin Ookami View Post
    FFVII: Cloud and Sephiroth are the definition of overrated. Boo hoo, seph killed Aerieth and hid in a hole for the rest of the game. Boo hoo, poor clouds peasent village. I'm sorry, this game got it's rep based on looks alone.
    Thats a fact then is it? Thanks, I really needed you to tell me that I only like FF7 because of how it "looks"

    Half-Life 2 and Halo have already been said but I think they are good examples. I love FPS, but these didnt interest me that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishin Ookami View Post
    Resident Evil 4: Not an overly bad game, but not the quantum leap everyone made it out to be. How come there was no strafe or dodge options, seemed like the same ol crap just with a few upgrades to me.
    Gotta roffle @ u for this. RE4 was exactly as big a deal as it was made out to be. If you played the earlier ones at all, you'd know this and you certainly wouldn't say it's just the same old crap. And yes, there is a dodge option, it's just contextual.

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    For you people who say Halo is hard, go play 00 Agent Mode on Golden Eye. That is hard.

    My friend, who couldn't beat a half decent Halo player if his life depended on it, and who rarely plays any FPS's at all, beat the game, both of them, with minimal difficulty on Legendary. As did just about every other Halo player I know. There is nothing difficult about Halo unless you're in Multiplayer.

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    The Metal Gear Solid series is vastly overrated - in my opinion. I've played every single incarnation of the game, and they've all bored me to tears, especially those boring Playstation and Playstation 2 versions.

    Oh, and Goldeneye. It's good, but not a classic. :/
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    There's several debates going on, and I'll try to state my opinion on all of them.

    Halo: A tad over-rated, but deserving of A LOT of the praise t hat it recieves. Its about time AI had a brain when it comes to FPS. And the opening rocked. My big problem is, people are taking it too far (as with counterstrike). You can get booted for not being good. Does anyone else see a problem with that? I also think that half life is worthy of every bit of praise. The action is tight, and the story is superb.

    Metal Gear Solid: Not over-rated. Its been around much longer than other stealth games, Splinter Cell owes MGS a lot.

    FF6: I really don't know how good the graphics are, considering I'm not rooted in an SNES, I don't generally compare graphics between them. Good music. Overall, mildly over-rated (not as bad as 7 though).

    For the next few, you need to understand where I go to school. I go to an alternate school, where your either a gangster, or you smoke pot everyday, or both.
    I'm sick of hearing about:
    GTA 3: The game is just boring. "Hey, lets make a game that lacks any sort of plot/objective, while making its sole appeal the ability to shoot cops."
    Scarface: "OMFG DRUGS! THIS GAME IS THE (note singular)!"
    Madden/NBA 2K7/Sports: "I could school you in (insert popular sports game)! Don't start with me bitch!"

    Of course you can school some one in madden, it takes absolutely no talent to do so! The above 3 games are the definition of over-rated.

    Ocarina of Time is over-rated. Sure, it did a lot right. But its not TEH BEST EVAR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post

    I have to disagree with this. I thought X had by far the best characters, plot, and most importantly gameplay* of any FF to date, and still does. It was horrendously linear, I can't deny that, and I think that works strongly against it. But I think it's the best work Square's done on the series to date, tbh.

    *Advanced version Sphere Grid = teh wins.
    Agreed.

    Metal Gear Solid 2 was overrated, the first and third lived up to the expectations imo.

    FF VII, overrated, although I must add I hadn't picked up this game until 2005, so I can't judge the quality for it's time.

    Gof of War, slightly overrated, but still pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow View Post
    In my opinion Milf is right you are wrong. Halo was exceptionally well executed the fact that it comes along a good few years before Half-life 2 proves another thing, Milf was right when he said any half decent fps since halo has borrowed heavily from it, Half-life 2 borrowed from Halo, then again it admitted the borrowing most designers would be a fool not to say "hey we saw that this game is loved so we tried looking at what makes it loved and work something out for our game to hopefully give it the same desirability." As for AI in halo, did you even try Legendary? it was insanely difficult. I loved the challenge of it and the AI was pretty intelligent for the time, how many times did you get a new fps out the box and see enemy troops run blindly in to the grenade you threw not caring that in ohhh...*booom* seconds the grenade will explode killing them prior to Halo? Quite a lot of it actually. Halo also made it fun to play FPS games it wasn't like the awful rendition of quake 3 on PS2 where you just fought bots in the levels. It was beautiful I still play Halo 1 and Halo 2 and will definitely buy a 360 for 3 even if it's the only game I want for it.

    Personally I am going to agree with Milf again on Half life series being overrated. I found it dull mind destroyingly dull. I loved Counterstrike when I used to play it but even that got taken over by people who saw it for more than just a bit of fun. I tried to complete Half-life 1 and failed completely not 'cause I couldn't do it, that wasn't the problem it was because I couldn't find the will to beat it I was so bored.
    I think the fact that you think Half-Life was dull shows the differences in our tastes here. Halo was essentially just another mindless run and gun experience if you ask me, whereas Half-Life was not only a much tenser and immersive game in my opinion, but it was one of the first shooters that had you doing more than just blowing away anything that moved.

    It's funny you should mention the AI in Halo running from thrown grenades and such and yet rag on HL. HL did all of that, and several years before Halo for that matter. Not only that though, it was done extremely well. I'd still put the HL AI up there with the AI in just about any FPS out today, and that's saying something since the game isn't far off of it's tenth birthday. And I would say the only thing HL2 may have borrowed from Halo is vehicles. If anything, it was very similar to the original HL in gameplay, and if you expect me to believe that they borrowed from Halo years before it was even announced then you're dreaming.

    You see, I completely disagree with HL being overrated. As someone who got the game back when it originally came out, I can say that more FPS's have borrowed from that game since it's release than any other FPS. No game had the effect on the genre that it did since Doom, so as far as I'm concerned, it's plenty deserving of it's praise.

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    Well, my opinion on the current debates:

    FFVI/VII: I haven't played these.

    Halo: True, I do agree the level design could have been better, because all of those hallways got old fast. However, it's still a really good game that helped Microsoft establish itself as a valid gaming entity.

    MGS: I've barely played the first Metal Gear Solid, and I can't get much further. I'll have to play it more before I make a final decision.

    Half-Life: Haven't played either of these in my life.

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