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    Final Fantasy X, I hates everything about this game. Mario. Anything mario besides mario kart. Metal Gear. I just can't get into the MG games. Same with the metroid games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corncracker View Post
    For you people who say Halo is hard, go play 00 Agent Mode on Golden Eye. That is hard.

    My friend, who couldn't beat a half decent Halo player if his life depended on it, and who rarely plays any FPS's at all, beat the game, both of them, with minimal difficulty on Legendary. As did just about every other Halo player I know. There is nothing difficult about Halo unless you're in Multiplayer.
    Halo 2? On Legendary? Beaten by a below-average player? Either there's BS here, or it took a retardedly long time. The original got pretty easy once you got the hang of it - the second did not. And anyway what's so wonderful about it being really difficult? That's not an inherently good thing, in fact that usually works against something. Also, Mythic difficulty.

    Half-life was so uninteresting that I used god mode after getting halfway through, just to see the end of it. After so much hype about it I figured I must have been missing something, or that staying the course would reward me - it didn't. So yeah, I consider it overrated, because everyone talks about what a great plot it has, when I barely even see a plot:

    Scientists mess around with something they shouldn't. Disaster ensues. Only one person is capable of cleaning it up. He is attacked not only by whatever consequences there are of the mess itself, but also whoever the incompetent and immoral government has sent in to clean up. Never seen that before. It's not original, but that would be okay if it were well told. Which it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
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    Though I would generally jump on the FFVII band wagon on this one, I feel I need to point out the other overrated FF game. (Holmes beat me to it though ) and it would be FFX.

    I can't understand why people love this game. It's an interactive movie with linear dungeons that are there for the sole reason for getting you from Cutscene A to Cutscene B. Half it's cast is just poorly written while the other half is just unlikable, and it's story is riddled with pointless plot devices that do nothing more than convulate the plot while adding nothing to it as a whole. I still believe that FFX is Squenix's tech demo for the PS2. It was only made to show what the PS2 was capable of, not to actually create a good game or story.
    I have to disagree with this. I thought X had by far the best characters, plot, and most importantly gameplay* of any FF to date, and still does. It was horrendously linear, I can't deny that, and I think that works strongly against it. But I think it's the best work Square's done on the series to date, tbh.

    *Advanced version Sphere Grid = teh wins.
    I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel FFX is the worst installment of the main FF series. After making something as good as FFIX, they turn around and make a game that would have barely cut it ten years ago? I can't let it slide.

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    The lack of in-your-face-plot is why you rely on other people to analyze it and put together a guide to explain it. It makes sense when you take note of those things in game.

    Halo was definitely pretty at the time, but people freaked way out about it. The majority of people calling it the best game of all time were from the camp that never picked up anything other than sports games and had nothing to compare it to. I hated it at the time because no one would shut up. I can play it now and look at its strong points (of which it admittedly does have quite a few) but I really can't say it comes out on top.

    HL1 is an old game. It was built on an even older engine (a heavily modified Quake 1 engine). I wish I could've played it when it came out, because its graphics definitely haven't held up for providing proper immersion. After visiting Half-life 2, though, it's an interesting thing to look back on.

    To touch on FFX: I generally get in a mood to play an FF game every now and again. I beat FFX about two years ago and have had no desire to pick it up ever since I beat that last boss. It's definitely not the height of the series in terms of gameplay, characters, or overall story. It's not bad, but it definitely didn't do anything particularly outstanding other than looking pretty.


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    I have never heard of anyone having trouble with Halo 2. Perhaps I just happen to know a group of people who just happened to be very good at the game, but they get beat by the people who generally loose out early in Halo tournaments. Until now, I've never even heard this game was difficult.

    And I'm not saying its bad, it was just wierd that here people kept saying Halo was difficult.

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    FF10 is HUGELY overrated...the sphere grid is a nightmare, the characters have little back story or histories to them, the main playable character is a whining bitch and the game concentrates way too heavily on the love story between yuna and tidus.

    Another point is the doing away of the world map which was an FF staple tradition which dispersed the feeling of linearity eventhough most if not all of the FF's are linear.

    I also disliked the fact that FF10 was extremely imbalanced difficulty wise due to the fact that the game was very easy for the up until the battle against Seymour on the mountain before Zanarkand. Then the game gets very difficult with you fighting some of the games hardest bosses in a fairly short time.

    This not to mention the AWFUL continuation that is FF10-2 which takes the game into even more tedium.

    Half life is also another game which doesnt deserve its praise...i found the story ok but the action and set pieces uninpiring...the AI was abysmal (but it was probably ok for the time) and the weapon selection and character design was also pretty bog standard. The repeditiveness was hair pullingly bad to such an extent that i couldnt bring myself to complete it due to the boredom it caused me!

    Halo on the other hand was nicely designed and kept a nice tense atmosphere throughout...i'll admit it got repeditive after a while but the AI and set pieces made up for it plus the story and script was well written and executed. The character design was brilliant (especially for the time) and made the game feel like a top notch interactive sci fi action movie. Halo 2 solved some of the problems from halo 1 such as the repeditiveness and also added more excitement...but introduced another problem...it was WAY too easy.

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    I like the sphere grid....

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    FFX is great!
    QSFT, EOS!

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    All FF games, except maybe Crystal Chronicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    Halo 2? On Legendary? Beaten by a below-average player? Either there's BS here, or it took a retardedly long time. The original got pretty easy once you got the hang of it - the second did not. And anyway what's so wonderful about it being really difficult? That's not an inherently good thing, in fact that usually works against something. Also, Mythic difficulty.
    Um, I've only picked up the halo games a few times and I beat 2 on legendary in one sitting. Didn't take long, just I had to be more careful.

    I thought halo was good but got talked about too much. I was thinking the same thing for Gears of war but I hadn't played it so I couldn't judge it. When I did play it and I loved it.

    Personally I'm not a fan of the more popular FF games. As in 6,7,8 and 11. I found that they were overhyped then when I did play them they didn't live up to the expectations everyone had set for them.

    Any of the Need for Speed games. You drive around a track, fast. Not much too it.

    Fable. Awesome game, way too short. Would have been better if they made it longer.

    I liked X. I thought the sphere grid was a cool idea. I like XII, it's pretty and it doesn't conentrate on one character which most of you complain about all the other ff's. Which makes no sense why you don't like this one.

    There's prolly more but I can't think of anymore right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lekana View Post

    Any of the Need for Speed games. You drive around a track, fast. Not much too it.
    word!

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    Quote Originally Posted by omegaweapon2005 View Post
    FF10 is HUGELY overrated...the sphere grid is a nightmare, the characters have little back story or histories to them, the main playable character is a whining bitch and the game concentrates way too heavily on the love story between yuna and tidus.
    I agree that it focuses too much on Tidus/Yuna, but seriously. Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri, and the entire Al Bhed all have totally awesome stories. And the story itself has like the second best "Oh snaps" I can remember seeing in a game (The best being in Star Ocean 3).

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
    I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel FFX is the worst installment of the main FF series. After making something as good as FFIX, they turn around and make a game that would have barely cut it ten years ago? I can't let it slide.
    Yeah, I think we'll just have to go our seperate ways on this issue, because I think FFIX is the worst in the main series (Or at least the modern ones, I've not really played 1-4 enough to judge them fairly). It seems that fans tend to split between VI/IX and VII/X. (People who rate VIII highest are kinda... weird... and thus I discount them. ) Anyway, I don't care to analyse the elements that go into this, but it does seem to be a fairly strong theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MILF
    It seems that fans tend to split between VI/IX and VII/X.
    I like VII, but VI is way better than X. IX isn't great, but it's still better than X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by omegaweapon2005 View Post
    FF10 is HUGELY overrated...the sphere grid is a nightmare, the characters have little back story or histories to them, the main playable character is a whining bitch and the game concentrates way too heavily on the love story between yuna and tidus.
    I agree that it focuses too much on Tidus/Yuna, but seriously. Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri, and the entire Al Bhed all have totally awesome stories. And the story itself has like the second best "Oh snaps" I can remember seeing in a game.
    I agree. The personal developements of just about every character in the party exceeds that of any others characters I know from videogames, Wakka being one of the greatest. The overall story is quite well-explained except for a few things like the pyreflies for example, but for the rest, I thought it felt like reading literature of some sort. The sphere grid does a good job filling up the boringness of auto-levelling imo.

    Burnout games, very enjoyable with a group of people, but still slightly overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrowaBartonIV ^_^ View Post
    Final Fantasy X, I hates everything about this game. Mario. Anything mario besides mario kart. Metal Gear. I just can't get into the MG games. Same with the metroid games.

    X was ok but it was ruined by Tidus! Super Mario is one of the classic games that you cant slag off a lot like sonic or final fantasy and Metal Gear Solid is one of the best games ever!

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