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    I saw it today. smurfing brilliant. I mean, sure, if you're going to compare it to grand scale things like tLoTR, it's going to disappoint -- but go into it expecting something different, and you'll be THRILLED. To the bone. Some funny bits too (or maybe just me? )
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    I've studied history as well
    Onther history buff!

    I'm most likely going to enjoy this movie
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    THIS IS SALAAAMMISSSS

    until they got their asses handed back to them later on in the Battle of Salamis
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    It's true they were sorely defeated in this battle but again it was only due to the nature of the terrain they were fighting in. The larger Persian ships could not maneuver and the even larger Phoenician ships the Persians were allied to had a harder time but because of the Phoenicians mastery of ship faring this dealt little problem to them and they advanced there fleet ramming the bunkers out of the Greeks. In fact the female admiral for the Phoenician's (to the Phoenicians/Carthaginians freedom was such at a great extent that woman were always in leadership positions such as queen dido of the Carthaginians) was the was the only among both the Greeks and Persians to show balls during the battle. Apparently after having skewered a Greek vessel (filled with Spartans) with her landing party she was forced into a "hasty retreat" by the encircling Greek flank and while she was backing off away from the battle she rammed and sunk 9 Greek vessels who thought they could get in her way.

    In fact after the battle "Xerxes, sitting ashore upon his golden throne, witnessed the horror. He remarked that Artemisia was the only general to show any productive bravery by ramming nine Athenian triremes, saying, "My female general has become a man, and all my male generals- women." But your right afterwards the Phoenicians saw what panzy's the Persian’s can be and left.
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    unlike, say, Kingdom of Heaven which changed quite a few details about certain events and certain characters to suit the movie, although in the end the movie still worked out well despite all the inaccuracies, especially the Director's Cut
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    <o>There wasn't any meddling with the historical facts as I saw. Certainty with some dialogue there were a few changes but the events?</o>

    I do hope that whatever movie we get about Hannibal will turn out to be a good one, because he was one of my favourites.
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    My absolute favorite as well, personally I would like to see the entire battle of cannae into one single film. The amount of detail they would be able to put in it would be awesome. And of course Hannibal smacking around an army five times his army's size (86,000 Roman legions) and then all together hand them there asses and taking only 6,000 casualties (this includes the men who got tired of kicking ass and deciding to sit this one out :P) is just pure amazement. Vin diesel having being the director however has got me worried.

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    I just got back from the movie. I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said except to suggest that, if at all possible, this movie should be watched in an IMAX theater. It's fantastic.

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    almost all movies should be watched imax

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    Well it looks like I'll be checking into a saint hospital soon.

    Yup I just came back from watching the movie. I'm pretty much not impressed. It was completely identical to "Alexander" all I saw was alot of chest thumpin Greeks Yammering on "Arg were the Greeks were better then the Persian’s boo hoo there here to take our gay men away from us and enslave our glories city's that have 70% of the population already enslaved anyway and insult our woman as if we don't already bury them for not cutting there hair and blah blah etc etc..". In the end this film will make loads as a pride film in Greece little boys and girls in the theater will suddenly start giggling after the the mighty Spartans impale the terrible Persians while eating there apples" O_o

    In short if you expected an epic don't count on it if you wanted something close to the remake of ninja turtles you’ll be ok. The only movie well worth its tribute was Troy now that was an epic. So far troy kept true to its objective and not became some pride film to distort history and cultures into monstrous hordes vs the angelic arch warriors <!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" oreferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f"> <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/> <v:formulas> <v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"/> <v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"/> <v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"/> <v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"/> <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"/> <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"/> <v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"/> <v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"/> <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"/> <v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"/> <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"/> <v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"/> </v:formulas> <vath o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/> <o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"/> </v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_i1025" type="#_x0000_t75" alt="" style='width:11.25pt; height:11.25pt'> <v:imagedata src="file:///C:/WINDOWS/TEMP/msoclip1/01/clip_image001.gif" o:href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif"/> </v:shape><![endif]--><!--[if !vml]-->:rolleyes2<!--[endif]-->

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diango12 View Post
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    In short if you expected an epic don't count on it if you wanted something close to the remake of ninja turtles you’ll be ok. The only movie well worth its tribute was Troy now that was an epic. So far troy kept true to its objective and not became some pride film to distort history and cultures into monstrous hordes vs the angelic arch warriors
    Wait wait, your saying troy is GOOD? If so, your feeling okay?

    and I can't wait to see it soon, you've all hyped it up so much.

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    As a history scholar I don't know what my ethical duty is. Is it right to go see this movie which is obviously so plagued with historical inaccuracies? Someone tell me!

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    If you worry too much about real-world accuracy, you'll never have any fun.

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    Is the concept of a completely fictional story inspired by actual historical documentation really that hard to understand, or that shameful to enjoy?

    If you seriously have to ask yourself whether or not you can lower your standards enough to see it, definitely don't go.

    I loved it. I got exactly what I was expecting. Could have done without the audience, but the movie itself was fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necronopticous View Post
    Is the concept of a completely fictional story inspired by actual historical documentation really that hard to understand, or that shameful to enjoy?
    I agree! It's based on a comic not actual history...so I don't understand why people are taking it as a historical documentary..

    It was what I was expecting and I enjoyed it!!

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    Stop whining and have some fun. Just because the movie isn't spot on with every single detail doesn't mean it isn't going to be a good movie. The facts and figures for the size of the Persian army has been written about and estimated a dozen times, where exactly are you getting your information and assurance that it was 100,000?

    The estimation has been anywhere from 100,000 to an upwards of over 5 million, even though this isn't widely accepted as an honest truth. How are you going to sit here and tell everyone, as if it is some kind of fact, that your number is accurate? Where did you get such privileged information.

    In short conclusion, shut up and stop whining. Go have fun. Go see sweaty, half-naked and competely naked men fight scary monsters and dine in hell. Because, when you get down to brass tax, this is all just madness.

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    I agree Bunny. Diango12, you really went in with completely the wrong mind set. You don't go to a movie based on a comic that was never intended to be historically accurate, expecting it to be historically accurate.The comic and the film were never meant to be any more than they were. You got too caught up in inaccuracy and completely missed the fact that this is one beautiful film to watch. Every single scene is visually stunning, particularly the battle scenes.

    Lighten up and try to enjoy something like this for what it is, not what you think it should be.

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    Looks like a bloodbath

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    History has little matter in a movie that was never once targeted as being historically accurate.

    I'm going to watch this movie for some sweaty, bloody, naked man-joy, blue-screen fun. And I think that's why most are. Anyone who expects a history lesson is truly missing the point of this movie and the point is not that ornate...

    OMG I really want to see this on the IMAX, but I have no car, and I don't know if I'm willing to hitch hike 140 miles just to see a movie...
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    YAY 300 is going to be great. I cant wait to see it ^_^__V

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