Cathedral row over video war game

[Odaisé Gaelach]

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Cathedral row over video war game

The Church of England is considering legal action against entertainment firm Sony for featuring Manchester Cathedral in a violent PlayStation video game.

The Church says Sony did not obtain permission to use the interior in the war game Resistance: Fall of Man.

The game, which has sold more than one million copies, shows a virtual shoot-out in the cathedral's nave in which hundreds of enemies are killed.

Sony said it believed it had sought all necessary permission for the game.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Cathedral row over video war game

Talks over cathedral gun game row
The Church of England is to hold talks with Sony over the entertainment giant's use of Manchester Cathedral as a backdrop for a violent computer game.

The discussions follow Sony's declaration that it sought and received "all permissions necessary" for the creation of the Playstation game.

Church officials dispute that and say the company was highly irresponsible to feature the cathedral.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Talks over cathedral gun game row

Cathedral to demand Sony apology

Church of England officials will send a letter to Sony demanding an apology over the use of Manchester Cathedral as a backdrop for a violent computer game.

They will ask the technology firm to remove images of the building from the game, and to provide backing to anti-gun campaigns in the city.

A cathedral spokesman said the Church had received many e-mails of support.

Sony said it had "all permissions necessary" to develop the Playstation game, entitled Resistance: Fall of Man.

But Church officials dispute that, and earlier threatened legal action against the firm.

The cathedral's David Marshall said Church leaders would meet on Monday to draft a letter and discuss what other action to take.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Cathedral to demand Sony apology


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[Dragonface]

Cathedral people sould cheak that Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real war. If not then not only they have leave Sony alone but also learn to grow up! Everyone knows 'When you don't like the game, YOU don't buy AND/OR play them!'

[Odaisé Gaelach]

Cathedral people sould cheak that Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real war. If not then not only they have leave Sony alone but also learn to grow up! Everyone knows 'When you don't like the game, YOU don't buy AND/OR play them!'

...What? You're not making sense.

[Dragonface]

Cathedral people sould cheak that Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real war. If not then not only they have leave Sony alone but also learn to grow up! Everyone knows 'When you don't like the game, YOU don't buy AND/OR play them!'

...What? You're not making sense.

I try by asking this: IS Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real past wars?

[Odaisé Gaelach]

I try by asking this: IS Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real past wars?

According to the article, no, it's not.

[Dragonface]

I try by asking this: IS Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real past wars?

According to the article, no, it's not.

Well then...If you would learn then 'Story Lines' of that game, you'll find out that happens in the 1950s when the enemies from outer space attack mankind in a world war stye. That all the Info I know. Resistance: Fall of Man needs real places that there before 1950.

[Rostum]

I try by asking this: IS Resistance: Fall of Man is based on a real past wars?

According to the article, no, it's not.

Well then...If you would learn then 'Story Lines' of that game, you'll find out that happens in the 1950s when the enemies from outer space attack mankind in a world war stye. That all the Info I know. Resistance: Fall of Man needs real places that there before 1950.

I'd hate to say it, but we didn't have a war against "enemies from outer space" in the 1950's.

[Bunny]

This topic makes me groan with displeasure. I refuse to read the articles because I already imagine what they say. It is absolutely ludicrous that the Church of England is seeking, or actually I think it is more akin to demanding, monetary retribution for something of so little meaning. It is a game, it is not reality and should not be seen as such.

Also, did everyone else not learn about the great Arkanid War of 1950? In which British Paratroopers and other military personnel were forced to defend their country against invading aliens who were trying to assimilate themselves into society by breeding with regular humans? Never Forget.

[Rostum]

This topic makes me groan with displeasure. I refuse to read the articles because I already imagine what they say. It is absolutely ludicrous that the Church of England is seeking, or actually I think it is more akin to demanding, monetary retribution for something of so little meaning. It is a game, it is not reality and should not be seen as such.

I'd hate to say it, but maybe Jackie boy is getting through to some people. (quite unfortunate really)

[Madame Adequate]

One Church source told me: "If this computer game had been set in a mosque, you can be sure there would have been more of a public outcry.

Uh no, actually. I've heard no outcry over such things in urban combat games which have mosques in them (Battlefield 2 does, I'm pretty sure. Conflict: Desert Storm might.), or in games where you can kill people in mosques (Deus Ex: Invisible War), or even games where you can use war engines to destroy mosques entirely (Age of Empires II).

So. Be quiet. Also! The Church might wanna reconsider making a fuss about things on the basis that Islam would make a fuss about equivalent things.

Anyway, I see no reason to be upset. You're killing godless alien invaders who have desecrated most of Europe, Britain included, and pretty much every religious site therein. What better setting to expel an alien invasion than a symbol of Mankind as strong as one of our largest monotheistic faiths?

[Bunny]

This topic makes me groan with displeasure. I refuse to read the articles because I already imagine what they say. It is absolutely ludicrous that the Church of England is seeking, or actually I think it is more akin to demanding, monetary retribution for something of so little meaning. It is a game, it is not reality and should not be seen as such.

I'd hate to say it, but maybe Jackie boy is getting through to some people. (quite unfortunate really)

Excuse me?

[Odaisé Gaelach]

I dunno... if the Church of England are right in saying that Sony didn't get permission to use the cathedral - and I'm not a solicitor, so I don't know the law - then surely a court will find in favour of the Church.

On the morals of using the cathedral itself, well, if GSC Gameworld can get away with setting a FPS around Chernobyl (mind you, they did have a lot of support from the plant) then why not Sony and a cathedral?

[theundeadhero]

The whole thing is a legal battle over whether Sony had permission or not. If I was the church and they didn't have permission I would do the same thing.

[Raistlin]

I would think the setting of a city, in which this church is a part, would be considered fair use.

tuh: I really hope you never have a bunch of money to hire lawyers, if you'd sue over anything like this.

[theundeadhero]

It's the "photo-quality reproduction" of the inside of the place where all the murdering takes place. That's what they're complaining about.