Gender Boundries

[Shiny]

i don't know what women find attractive. all i'm saying is i understand why a woman would wear makeup but i don't see how it would make a man more attractive. i don't think that eyeliner and lipstick and nail polish make him such, i don't know if guys who do wear these things even do it to look more attractive.

Some guys look better with eyeliner.

[Miriel]

Of course, this only applies to the Western culture. It's also notable that it doesn't mean that it's inferior, it just means that girls are more likely to do it. So all these people going on about girly = inferior, shush. Not once has that been suggested. If the ways that a very large amount of girls do a specific thing tends to be an inferior way of doing it, then provided very few males also do this specific thing in this way, it is considered that the 'girly' thing coincidentially happens to be inferior. For a good example, running like a girl. This is where one runs with their elbows glued to their sides and their hands wave outside of this. I've seen it. We've probably all seen it. It just happens that a large amount of girls are known to do it and very few guys are. This means that it's girly. It also happens to be inferior. Therefore, running like a girl is running in an inferior way.

Not once has it been suggested? I think you're very very wrong there. You can make up tons of excuses for the type of sex-related insults that exists, but nothing really changes the fact that in most instances, when a guy is linked to feminine qualities, it's done so to suggest that what they're doing is inferior.

As for the type of running you're suggesting, I honestly can't remember ever seeing a real girl run like that. On TV and in movies, sure. But in real life? I would probably remember seeing that since I'd probably laugh my but off to see someone running like that. And so, no, running like a girl is NOT inferior.

[Loony BoB]

Wearing pink is girly because most guys don't wear pink.
But most guys don't wear pink because wearing pink is girly.
...?

It's a snowball effect but it's true, even if there isn't a decent reason for it. I think it stems more from how we're treated as children than anything - if you're a boy wearing pink to school at the age of seven or so, chances are you'll get bullied. Stupid, pathetic, etc. - but that's kids. Because of this, guys get it in their head that pink = bad as they grow up. Some get out of it, some don't, some just don't like to wear pink anyway. I don't really care to wear pink just like I don't care to wear orange - I just don't think it makes for a good colour of clothing.

I do still think it's a girly colour, though.

Not once has it been suggested? I think you're very very wrong there. You can make up tons of excuses for the type of sex-related insults that exists, but nothing really changes the fact that in most instances, when a guy is linked to feminine qualities, it's done so to suggest that what they're doing is inferior.

Well, I've never seen it that way.

As for the type of running you're suggesting, I honestly can't remember ever seeing a real girl run like that. On TV and in movies, sure. But in real life? I would probably remember seeing that since I'd probably laugh my but off to see someone running like that. And so, no, running like a girl is NOT inferior.

I've seen loads of girls run in this way. I don't laugh, though. It should be noted that it's not how they actually run if they were in a race or something. It's how they run when they see something they really want in a shop, or how they run when they see a moth (hi, Danielle :<3:</>). Sort of an 'excited run' thing? I dunno, but I know loads of girls that I've seen do it.

[Rengori]

i don't know what women find attractive. all i'm saying is i understand why a woman would wear makeup but i don't see how it would make a man more attractive. i don't think that eyeliner and lipstick and nail polish make him such, i don't know if guys who do wear these things even do it to look more attractive.

Some guys look better with eyeliner.

Yeah, look at Panic! at the Disco.

[Shauna]

"a thousand miles"

I assume that the song is "I’m Gonna Be (500 Miles)", by The Proclaimers? And... I don't see how listening to that could ever be considered girly. xD I mean, it's just a song!

[Loony BoB]

I don't think listening to any kind of music can really be considered 'girly'. Especially not The Proclaimers.

[Peegee]

Listening to boy bands makes you girly.

Now, I'm still looking for words that refer to females in the same semantic style as calling Psychotic 'gay' or a 'fairy'. I propose that no such words exists because women have developed a social amnesty to being called out for being 'unladylike'.

[Old Manus]

I don't think listening to any kind of music can really be considered 'girly'. Especially not The Proclaimers.

Justin Timberlake

I'm looking at you, Doomie.

[Iceglow]

"a thousand miles"

I assume that the song is "I’m Gonna Be (500 Miles)", by The Proclaimers? And... I don't see how listening to that could ever be considered girly. xD I mean, it's just a song!

No I believe he means Michelle Branch's "A thousand miles" which is often considered very girly by the most masochistic of guys but then I'm hardly what I'd call "girly" (unless you count my vainity) I'm sure that listening to songs by Michelle Branch, Dido, Bryan Addams is not that girly...listening to something like Spice Girls is however and theres no excusing those guys.

[Shauna]

Oh. xD Ah well. Whatever. ^_^; *doesn't listen to much music*

[PyroManiak]

You're all wrong.

I was listening to "A thousand Miles" by Vanessa carlton

and I do listen to The proclaimes but no one I know would consider that song girly...maybe the "tadata" part?

BTW: That's my favorite part

[Iceglow]

Ahhh sorry but yeah that was the song I was thinking of I just got confused on the artist...I don't see how that's girly music I quite like it (had to use facebook to remember what song it was) it was catchy and had that nice chilled out feel to it. Theres times and places for all types of music in life.

[Araciel]

i don't know what women find attractive. all i'm saying is i understand why a woman would wear makeup but i don't see how it would make a man more attractive. i don't think that eyeliner and lipstick and nail polish make him such, i don't know if guys who do wear these things even do it to look more attractive.

Some guys look better with eyeliner.

Yeah, look at Panic! at the Disco.

those guys don't look manly....owait is that the point of this thread?

who took my false teeth?!