Originally Posted by Shiny
Captain Maxx Power
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Flying Mullet
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I'll assume you were replying to shiny there.
foa if you are a citizen you will be happy to wait and see if DK is revealed a mafia. Because once he's dead either way the citizens will have a clearer idea of who to trust. DK and his followers if he is innocent, Maxx and his followers if he isn't. As I say, either way the citizens will be in a stronger position than ever before. They may have less people but they will be closer to trusting each other.
If you are mafia, then it's no surprise you are so against the death of DK now, is it?
Wrong. The game is based on TEAM unity. It's based on working together AS A TEAM, finding evidence AS A TEAM, sharing evidence AS A TEAM and then moving on from there. Shiny basically said s/he (sorry! I can't remember atm ;_that WAS NOT going to share any evidence s/he had. That they'd rather wait until after someone dies for all of the rest of us to find out.
That isn't what's happened here. People are still going too far with their gut and not far enough with shared logic. People ARE BLINDLY VOTING based on personal experience, or who is most vocal, etc. etc. I went with my gut, people followed me, and I ended up leading the charge to get one of our biggest assets (Del Murder) killed. I don't want another citizen to die. I want to win the game. Based on what Dan and I have talked about, I think he's going to be INCREDIBLY helpful in helping our side to win. And everyone else wants to lynch him with NO EVIDENCE.They have taken a better path than blindly voting people who make no posts because remember the mafia are all in one team, they can easily pick citizens off one by one whilst we try in vain to vote for different people. The only way to unite citizens is through trust of each other. Which this is taking a step towards.
You can't unite if you don't share information.Once they are more united and begin to learn who they can trust and who they cannot, that is when they should try and take out the more mysterious players.
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You bring me some nicely cooked lobster with rocket salad as a side, then leave.
Has it occurred to you that this has happened?
Assuming that DK AND I ARE BOTH MAFIA then yeah, it does make sense. But that's the fun part! Neither of us are! Not ONE of you has any proof tying either of us to the mafia. I am NOT happy to wait and see if DK is revealed a mafia, because I KNOW he isn't mafia. Much as I suspect Maxx Power ISN'T mafia. If we keep killing off people who aren't mafia, we aren't ANY closer to winning the game.
Eventually, all of you are going to have killed all of us good guys off. It's amazing how the mafia doesn't have to lift a finger to manipulate everyone else. We all just mindlessly kill each other off and make their job WAY easy for the..m.
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I sure as hell no that none of you, besides Dan, that is, have shared information with me.Has it occurred to you that this has happened?
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The sharing of information can't be easy because no citizen knows who is a mafia or not! As I said we can't trust each other until we have a basis on which to trust.
That basis is the death resulting from today. There have been two major teams going against each other here. One of those teams will be mafia protecting their own because I suspect we have voted in large amounts against our first mafia. I suspect this because in no other mass vote has there been two sides, it has been widespread because the mafia knew they were in no danger. It makes sense.
If the person dies and is revealed mafia, the citizens will be able to more easily judge who is, and isn't trustworthy. The cop can help gather them together with his night POWA and paff, they have a chance of winning.
It's going to be funny when he dies if you think this.
I'm not directing who the information goes to here. Is there someone doing that? Yes. Because they have information. And I suspect that they divulge their information to whom they want, based on observations of trust. I didn't see anything suspicious about you until this gung-ho defense of Dan, saying you're 100% sure he's not mafia. If I was the one with the knowledge, I probably would've shared it with you. But that's not the case.
You don't KNOW he isn't mafia. You can't know for sure until he is killed. You are basing this on his ability to keep himself secret. Wow he can hide it from people in conversation? Doesn't mean he isn't mafia.
Who knows the mafia hasn't lifted a finger to manipulate us? No one innocent knows who the mafia are except perhaps the cop so we could've been playing into their hand the entire game.
Listen to what i've posted, once the person who has the most votes dies tonight plenty will become clear. You can't know if DK is mafia or not unless you are mafia yourself.
You may not have the same information I do, but there are a fair few of us who DO have information from a specific source, completely trustable information. Those of you who know what I'm talking about should be arguing just as much as I am against everyone else.
EDIT: I trust him. I have good reason. Apparently you're not in on that. Probably because you're not trust-worthy enough yourself.
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I do have understanding actually. From what I got from the flash and such. Atleast enough from the flash. Also, next time you might want to say who you are referring to because I'm just assuming it was me right now. And I never admitted to having no evidence. You asked if people had evidence and I said yes. How are you so sure that it IS another citizen? Where is YOUR evidence for your claims?
Oh that's nice. Going after me, a person you must know to be a citizen, because you are mafia. Which makes sense why you are protecting DK. I hope you know that if it's revealed that DK is indeed mafia, you will be the first target. So what's the point in even trying to save him at this point? No. I will not bugde. Because unlike DK, I don't have enough evidence to go after Flying Mullet again yet. My vote wouldn't matter for him regardless, because 1. He's inactive as of right now 2. Many people have voted for DK as is. Changing my vote wouldn't do a thing.
I personally had a reason for voting DK; I felt that his actions and demeanour were working in favour of the mafia. If you check I voted for him in the round previous to this. I kept my stance because he was still my personal prime suspect. The reason why things have gone crazy is because no sooner had DK started getting a few votes his way a whole bunch of them started coming in my direction, seemingly out of the blue. True, some people had their suspicions about me earlier on, but some just seemed to "choose randomly". I mean who the hell chooses randomly in a game like this?! You can either conclude a general cloud of confusion enveloped everyone, or that it was something pushed on by the Mafia. I've stayed out of it for the most part, since the more you try to convince people you're not Mafia when you're being targeted the more likely it is people will carry on voting for you.
Really we can but wait for the night to come. It looks like DK is about to be lynched, so I'll see whether or not my own suspicions were correct either way.
There is no signature here. Move along.
You're wrong. It changing your vote to anything else might protect an innocent person.
And i'm not having a go at you, I'm sorry if it seemed like I was being mean. I'm just trying to get my point of view across.
And I'm not worried about being targetted because I trust Dan based on information we've shared. He isn't mafia. If I had any doubt at all, I'd say go right on ahead and lynch me with him.
EDIT: I give up. I just want everyone to know I think this is another serious mistake in a long line of serious mistakes.
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I understand that you are probably just wanting to help out citizens and stop everyone killing them off so easily. Plus DK has gained your trust somehow with some secret information, but the only way everyone's suspicions here can be resolved is by seeing what he was for sure in his death. Even you, foa, need to know for sure.
I hope after this everyone will have a better idea of who to trust and who to avoid. After this next night every citizen needs to attempt to gather together in order to lessen the mafia's numbers. Goodness knows how many they have left.
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