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    While it is very wrong for him to be persecuted for saying it, I'm tired of seeing everyone take cases like this as a reason to bash Christianity. Not all christians are like that and even the most devout are open to other opinions, despite what alot of people want you to think.

    I know in the Catholic Church, alot of us actually believe exactly what he said - that Genesis isn't a literal model for how the world is created. there's many other Christians who even go so far as to believe that Evolution was the means by which God created man. So please, do not think all Christians are ignorant or are all-out hating science or all that.

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    What Bolivar said.

    Still, nobody did anything wrong until somebody's beliefs almost ruined somebody's career for their beliefs.



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    I can't speak for the others, but I never said all Christians were like that. Only that these Christians were like that. Obviously, there are many religious people that can think for themselves. The problem is when people are brainwashed from birth with a particular religion. I used to be a real asshole because of it. Now, I'm just a real asshole for other reasons. Brainwashed people need to be broken and taught to think for themselves. Otherwise, crap like this happens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laddy View Post
    Still, nobody did anything wrong until somebody's beliefs almost ruined somebody's career for their beliefs.
    It was the teacher's beliefs that caused the trouble. He has the right to believe whatever he wants. However, stating that belief as fact is totally out of line. Should he have been fired? Probably not. Should he have been punished? Yes. He abused his authority.
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    If the book of Genesis was a literal, the first two chapters would not contradict each other.

    In the first chapter, you have the creation of the world in seven days.
    Day 5: Birds and fish
    Day 6: All other animals and humans

    Then you get into the story of Adam and Eve, which states that Adam was created first, then the animals, and finally Eve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    While it is very wrong for him to be persecuted for saying it, I'm tired of seeing everyone take cases like this as a reason to bash Christianity. Not all christians are like that and even the most devout are open to other opinions, despite what alot of people want you to think.

    I know in the Catholic Church, alot of us actually believe exactly what he said - that Genesis isn't a literal model for how the world is created. there's many other Christians who even go so far as to believe that Evolution was the means by which God created man. So please, do not think all Christians are ignorant or are all-out hating science or all that.
    Well said.

    If he was fired solely for this, than that's ridiculous and he should certainly sue the school. I can see taking offense to it if it goes against your beliefs, but come on now. My 12th grade English teacher made it well known in class that she thought the whole Bible was a load of crock, me or any other people who believe in it didn't flip out. Either way these kids need to learn to accept others and their opinions, seeing as how being accepting is kind of a big part of being a Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
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    Still, nobody did anything wrong until somebody's beliefs almost ruined somebody's career for their beliefs.
    It was the teacher's beliefs that caused the trouble. He has the right to believe whatever he wants. However, stating that belief as fact is totally out of line. Should he have been fired? Probably not. Should he have been punished? Yes. He abused his authority.
    he hardly abused his authority, he only pointed out that snakes infact cannot talk
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    well its retarded we all hav our belifs if some1 is gonna fite over what some1 else thanks then fires them then they need councilin

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    lol, religion


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    The real question here is how did those students make it into college?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyblade
    It was the teacher's beliefs that caused the trouble. He has the right to believe whatever he wants. However, stating that belief as fact is totally out of line. Should he have been fired? Probably not. Should he have been punished? Yes. He abused his authority.
    But it is fact.

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    In times of religious confusion, we can count on nik0tine to enter the breach once more.


    there was a picture here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Manus View Post
    In times of religious confusion, we can count on nik0tine to enter the breach once more.
    and generally be able to clear the confusion with words of wisdom
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    i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Don't Need A Name View Post
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    Still, nobody did anything wrong until somebody's beliefs almost ruined somebody's career for their beliefs.
    It was the teacher's beliefs that caused the trouble. He has the right to believe whatever he wants. However, stating that belief as fact is totally out of line. Should he have been fired? Probably not. Should he have been punished? Yes. He abused his authority.
    he hardly abused his authority, he only pointed out that snakes infact cannot talk
    That was by no means "all" he pointed out.

    I told them it was an extremely meaningful story, but you had to see it in a poetic, metaphoric or symbolic sense, that if you took it literally, that you were going to miss a whole lot of meaning there.
    He has no right to tell anyone how they "have" to view their relegion. His opinion is that the story is full of depth, meaning, and metaphorical imagery. I don't even disagree with that. He overstepped his authority in using his position as a teacher to present that view as the only view. His class was western civilization, not interpretation of relegious dogma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
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    Still, nobody did anything wrong until somebody's beliefs almost ruined somebody's career for their beliefs.
    It was the teacher's beliefs that caused the trouble. He has the right to believe whatever he wants. However, stating that belief as fact is totally out of line. Should he have been fired? Probably not. Should he have been punished? Yes. He abused his authority.
    he hardly abused his authority, he only pointed out that snakes infact cannot talk
    That was by no means "all" he pointed out.

    I told them it was an extremely meaningful story, but you had to see it in a poetic, metaphoric or symbolic sense, that if you took it literally, that you were going to miss a whole lot of meaning there.
    He has no right to tell anyone how they "have" to view their relegion. His opinion is that the story is full of depth, meaning, and metaphorical imagery. I don't even disagree with that. He overstepped his authority in using his posi<b></b>tion as a teacher to present that view as the only view. His class was western civilization, not interpretation of relegious dogma.
    still, the kids have no right to get the teacher sacked for having a different view to him. just because he has a more logical view on the bible stories doesnt mean they can go about getting a man out of a job
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