Quote Originally Posted by Miriel View Post
It grows from the earth. The freakin' earth! Like basil.

Don't really understand why it's illegal.
Under what you say Miriel opiates which come from poppies should also be legal too because it is a plant that grows from the earth. I disagree with that because Opiates are addictive and overdoses will kill.


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Quote Originally Posted by Pureghetto View Post
I promote libertarianism, so even though I don't really like to smoke (anything), I support the notion that people who want to do this should be allowed to.
The sad thing is, most Americans are Libertarian. In fact, I'd estimate about 85-90% of Americans being Libertarian. And, with that being the case, how come they can't get more than two electoral college votes? They should be able to take the election every time with no contest. Problem is, they all assume their vote would be wasted if they voted for what they wanted. And that's why it is wasted. Vote Libertarian. They're the only party that would legalize your marijuana. That being said, I'm not Libertarian. I'm independent.

Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
I hate you too. But I'm sure alcohol is ok with you right? I'd smoke a joint over drinking a beer any day. Alcohol kills people. How many people you know that've died form pot? Exactly.
Last time this conversation came up, I challenged the anti-marijuana crowd to produce one documented case of death by marijuana overdose. They tried so hard. The best they could come up with was some crazy bitch who died because she ate some very strong, and possibly poisoned, marijuana. It was originally called an overdose, but after doctors looked at it, they realized it was due to the fact she ate a lot of possibly poisoned marijuana. So yeah. It's killed one. But not by overdose. Marijuana is absolutely safe and illegal for political and religious reasons. I mean, seriously. If you're going to legalize the two most dangerous drugs in pharmaceutical history, why not legalize the safest? It makes absolutely no sense.
I agree most people feel they will waste their vote because time honored traditional views state they will wate their vote since a Conservative or Labour (whatever they're called in America, Democrats and Republicans?) government candidate will win. It's the same over here really, they vote Conservative or Labour because they feel the Liberal Democrats have no chance. Then again the Liberal Democrats would do things too liberal in my opinion, I like their ideas but in moderation which their not too good at suggesting. This however is off topic so I won't continue.

The insert quote that Bert states about alcohol being ok I'll comment on. Personally I think alcohol is slightly better than weed for one reason: At least when someone CHOOSES to drink Alcohol they don't force others to do so with them. Smoking weed is like smoking a cigarette the smoke whilst highly diluted and weakened can get people high, hot boxing for an example. An alcoholic only kills/affects himself, a weed smoker will affect those around them too.

For weed killing people. I don't know the major problem here is that today a lot of the cheapest easily available weed on the market is Skunk and Skunk more often than not is cut with other drugs to enhance the trip that can be dangerous and in some cases can prove addictive for people. I know this from my own experiences I'm not just shooting weed down here. I suppose some badly cut skunk could POSSIBLY kill someone but would you count it as the weed killing them or as poisoned weed? In my opinion it would be the weed. I could also say that weed slows reaction times at a faster rate than alcohol therefore if you follow the law and have "a" drink and drive afterwards you are less likely to be drunk (or seriously affected by the drink) than if you smoke a joint (even some heavier smokers I know get high from one joint) if you smoked a joint and drove I'd say you were more likely to have an accident than if you had a single drink and drove that could kill you.

Myself, I used to smoke weed and a lot of it. I'd occassionally take a quick toke from a joint now or a hit from a bong if it was on offer but I won't pay for my occasional whims. I am pro legalisation so long as the weed is properly maintained and the strength is monitored, there is an extension to the smoking ban meaning it could only be smoked at home or in designated "weed cafe's" (much like Amsterdam is supposed to be if the police weren't so relaxed), the weed is taxed properly and the taxes from that were to pay for better healthcare services. However I think the problem will then be similar to the stuff we've got now, smokers would grow "used" or "ressistant" to the hit they get from it after a while and they'd seek a "harder hit" which means an illegal market of skunk would flourish again but with higher prices without controls or policing which would be bad.


And yes I'm addicted to Jojee too :P