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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarmiglione View Post
    Jesus isn't God. He's god's son.

    No where in the Bible is there a mention of the "Trinity."
    A religion is not only define by its scriptures. There are plethora of theological works that help define the basis of religious thought. For example, Christianity would not be what it is today without the works of Origen, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, etc...To say that the Bible is the sole source of religious authority would fall into fundamentalism, which only represents a minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D
    Let's assume God and Christ are one and the same, as part of the Holy Trinity. It mightn't be expressly stated as such in the Bible, but it's been accepted as true by Christianity for long enough. But while Christ and God might be the same person, Christ was still created by God, and created in order to die. Therefore, God was able to 'defeat' Christ from the very moment of Christ's creation. It was God's plan for Christ to die for humanity's sins; God's will prevailed over anything Christ might've wanted to decide for himself. That'd mean that, technically, God > Christ, regardless of whether Christ was a monophysite being or a blend of Man and Divine.
    What you said is not the orthodox position. The Son had always existed at the same time as the Father and the Holy Ghost. There are heresies in which it is believed that the Son came after the Father and the Holy Ghost but long before Creation. But if we are speaking from a strictly orthodox position, then I cannot see how it is possible to say God defeated Jesus since, in essence they are the same. Then again, I am unfamiliar with the depths of Christian theology and working from memory of stuff I was taught when studying the early Church.
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