Lost Season 5 - Spoilers EVERYWHERE! :p

[Moon Rabbits]

I found it interesting that they could just walk down into the monster's lair and come out 'okay', although I do wonder just how okay they were. They didn't seem sick so much as they seemed to have changed in attitude, like they were wanting to kill her or capture her for some reason. Others? I mean, remember there were a lot of Losties that were snapped up by the Others and are now happily living with them and seemingly okay with locking them up etc. Alternatively, it's possible that they wanted to get her to the island in the first place. I'm almost positive it's something to do with Alex though, rather than Danielle.

Danielle's crew being infected reminded me of JENOVA and the Cetra because sometimes I am that lame. Anyway, what interests me is why her ex-lover tried to kill her if he was working for the Others. I mean, Danielle is pregnant with babeh, and the Others can't get preggo on the Island because it kills them - so if ex-lover-frenchman was swayed by the monster to be part of the Others, you'd think he wouldn't try and blow Danielle's face clean off. HOWEVER, I've always sort of thought that maybe the Others aren't always working in the best interest of the Island - imho, the Island itself is what is killing of the pregnant women.

[Del Murder]

Smokey makes you hallucinate. Remember Eko. So conceivably her lover could have been hallucinating and think she was the monster. They probably all went crazy.

Somkey is probably independent from the Others in that he has his own agenda. Still waiting for the smoke monster flashback episode.

[scrumpleberry]

Still waiting for the smoke monster flashback episode.

This would be so wonderful.

[Del Murder]

Smoke monster and Ben are my two favorite characters on Lost right now.

[Moon Rabbits]

Ooooooooooooh I've been doing spoiler huntings. The following is ALLLLLLLL spoilers for upcoming episodes (nothing big, really, just episode synopses and some casting calls, etc. read at own risk!!):

(SPOILER)
316:
So, it looks like everyone at the Church is going back to the island this episode. Neat. Jin is traveling around time wearing a Dharma jumpsuit (see LaFleur).
Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham:
Tells all about Locke's death. Apparently Matthew Abbadon and Locke go to a graveyard to have a chat, with Locke in a wheelchair, but when they are going to leave Abbadon gets shot :o
LaFleur:
This episode is apparently about the survivors currently on the Island (ie. Jin + Sawyer + Juliet etc.) going back in time to right some epic wrong in the past (like 1970s Dharma past). I was looking at episode stills, and it shows Sawyer in an Dharma outfit with the name "LaFleur" on it. Juliet is attending to a pregnant woman (possibly "Amy," who a casting call was put out for. 35 - 40 year old woman, complicated love life, but other than that very level headed etc. etc. Apparently she will be appearing in at least four episodes). Horace Goodspeed will also be returning this episode. Supposedly, this was to air before the L&DoJB episode.

[The Man]

Well that episode was pretty weird. I'm sure we'll get a lot more exposition next episode; I want it now :S

Crackpot theory alert, coming from the lostpedia boards.

(SPOILER)Jack is Jacob? Of course. Here’s some (circumstantial) evidence, broken down by category, and in no particular order:<br /><br />Character analysis: Jack is wiley and is playing Ben for a fool. Jack of the kidney sac bait-n-switch. Jack of the “I know the Others are coming, but I’m not going to tell you until I have a plan.” Jack of the “Ben, you’re my ally – until Locke gets here.”<br /><br />Character and story analysis: Jacob almost surely is someone we know. If Jacob is just Jacob, why introduce a new and important character more than 75 percent of the way through your story? Because you don’t. We’ve already been introduced to Jacob. He was the first person we ever saw. <br /><br />Character and story analysis: The man of science and the man of faith must come together to save the island. (They’re the yin and yang, after all). Think about it ... Jack and Locke have a contentious relationship. Locke has pleaded for Jack’s help throughout the series. “Jack don’t do this.” “Jack, you’re not supposed to do this.” And so forth. Isn’t it time for Jack to ask for Locke’s help? Oh wait, he already did, when he was a time-leaping phantom named Jacob (trapped in a time-shifting cabin no less).<br /><br />Symbolic: Jack is the son of Christian Shepherd (a Christian shepherd?), which might suggest that he's a messianic figure. Perhaps at the end of the series Jack seemingly sacrifices his life to save his friends (and the island and the world).<br /><br />Symbolic: As a messianic and mythic figure, Jack must sacrifice himself and be reborn. Once Jacob can leave the cabin, who wants to bet that an older, exhausted Jack steps out the door? Sort of like another character whose name begins with a “J” stepped out of a tomb after he was dead.<br /><br />Suggestive: If you needed help, who would you enlist? Family, right? Who has Jacob enlisted? Christian and Claire Shepherd. Jack's father and half-sister. Ben even says, at one point, "What wouldn’t a father do for his son?" Why wouldn’t Christian help his time-leaping, trapped, foolish son?<br /><br />Suggestive: What does Christian Shepherd hand to Jack in the webisode “The Watch.” A watch. Hmmm, time references?<br /><br />Suggestive: Jacob’s eye is brown.<br /><br /> <img src="http://ncjl.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/jacob-02.png" alt="" border="0"><br /><br />Jack’s eyes? Brown. <br /><br /><img src="http://photogallery.longlostlist.net/albums/userpics/10007/lost_pilot_a003.jpg" alt="" border="0"><br /><br />Suggestive: Jack is not on Jacob’s list. We don’t know what the list is, per se. But why put yourself on your own list?<br /><br />Suggestive: Room 23 indoctrination. "Only fools are enslaved by time and space." Suggests that someone is enslaved by time and space. Most likely character? Jacob. And who has been our biggest “fool” (in that he’s tried to fix things, but has only made things worse, time and again)? Jack.<br /><br />Suggestive: Jack’s tattoo. Translation, “he who walks among us, but is not one of us." What’s the one character that is among all others on the Island, but does not commune with anyone? Jacob. <br /><br />Suggestive: Tattoo artist’s insight into Jack. She can peer into your soul and tell you your true identity (there's a clue there – why is she discerning Jack's "true identity" in the first place?). She refers to Jack as "a great man, a leader." Now, how does Mikhail describe his "leader" to John? He calls him a "magnificent man". Or better, there’s Ben. How does Ben describe Jacob? "The man in charge—he's a great man, John, a brilliant man." <br /><br />Suggestive: Jack’s books in his office (from “A Tale of Two Cities”): Fire in the Mind: Faith and the Search for Order, Pale Horse Coming, Redemption, Valhalla Rising (in which Dirk Pitt discovers he has twin 23-year-old children raised by another – a love who he assumed was dead – if those aren't Lost themes, what are?), No Place Like Home (a Mary Higgins Clark title that plays off “The Wizard of Oz”), and my favorite Prisoner of Azkaban (in which the vile and terrifying Sirius Black turns out to be the heroic godparent of Harry Potter, imprisoned by the forces of evil, eventually freed to help battle the forces of evil – Sounds like Jacob could be Sirius Black.)

I'm sold. Note also that Matthew Fox is apparently the only cast member who knows the ending to the series. If true, this would explain why.

Of course it could all be one gigantic red herring as well, wouldn't be the first time that's happened in this series What really sells me on this, though, is the fact that (SPOILER)it would fit Jack's character arc perfectly - from being completely sceptical about anything supernatural relating to the Island, to becoming the main apparently supernatural force directing events on the Island. I can't realistically imagine it being anyone else now.

[Del Murder]

That episode was weird and I didn't like it. The process to get these people back to the island felt rushed. I guess we'll see more of it later, like with the next episode being about Locke's part.

Interesting theory about Jack that The Man posted. Sounds believable.

This show has gone on such a tangent from its original premise and style. :o

[Moon Rabbits]

I really liked 316. I would like to be the first to put forward that the random Indian man who talked to Jack in line / was the only one in the private section of the plane aside from the police woman is going to appear later in the series. In fact, I think he had something to do with the boat and the people who shot at Juliet+Sawyer and co. a few episodes back. Oui et non?

Ajira Airlines seem awfully suspicious. The stewardesses all seemed to know Ben.

The Man's theory seems very very very plausible. Actually, I am going to assume it is true until proven otherwise.

My favorite part was Ben calling Jack, what with the being covered in blood and all. I knew immediately when he said he "was going to do a favor for a friend" that he was off to kill someone (or someones). I am waiting for the episode that explains how everyone (other than Sun and Jack) were convinced to return to the Island. Ben had some part to play in that, I'm sure.

[Del Murder]

Yeah, I can't wait for the Ben episode when he goes all hardcore on the rest of the Oceanic 6. You know it's coming.

[The Man]

I'm pretty sure Ben paid a visit to Desmond and Penny. What occurred is, of course, only a matter of conjecture at this point, but I strongly suspect that (SPOILER)it's going to provide an incentive for him to return to the island.

[Psychotic]

That episode was weird and I didn't like it. The process to get these people back to the island felt rushed.

Yeah, I agree with it feeling rushed.

I was reading on Lostpedia that they think the woman with a badge who was with Sayid was supposed to be recreating Edward Mars's role. More like Ana Twocia amirite or amirite.

[The Man]

Yeah I thought that was pretty obvious as soon as I saw her. No idea what the dude who talked to Jack's deal is though, but I strongly suspect we'll be seeing him again.

[Moon Rabbits]

Yeah I thought that was pretty obvious as soon as I saw her. No idea what the dude who talked to Jack's deal is though, but I strongly suspect we'll be seeing him again.

No, I'm positive he'll be in later episodes. Why else would he talk to Jack, and then be the only person in the part of the plane that Hurley bought out? He was emphasized for a reason. He's also Indian, and I definitely think Ajira Airlines is just a front for some other organization (remember the Ajira Airlines waterbottle?) ... everyone involved seemed to know something was up. I think Ben sneaked Aaron on board somehow, too. I mean, everything had to be the same, didn't it? They all had to go back. Is Aaron an exception because he wasn't born at the time? I don't think so.

Frank Lapidus' "we're not going to Guam, are we?" killed me. It was hilarious <3.

It also seems very plausible that Ben went to see Des and Penny, like the Man said; iirc he called Jack from a payphone on a dock - Penny and Desmond live on a houseboat :o

Was anyone else weirded out about Eloise actually explaining something? I mean, this show has been on for 4 years and that was the first time that they actually flat out EXPLAINED something. I agree with Del Murder's comment about the premise and style - the pacing of the show has totally changed. I like it, but it feels like a totally different show now.

[The Man]

No, I'm positive he'll be in later episodes. Why else would he talk to Jack, and then be the only person in the part of the plane that Hurley bought out? He was emphasized for a reason.

Yeah hence my strong suspicions.

As for Ajira being front to something else, possible. Actually I'm going to class it as likely given that their people were apparently shooting at the Lostaways a few episodes ago.

re: explanations, I wouldn't say this is the first time that's happened, but this season has definitely had a lot more of that than previous years.

[Miriel]

God I can't believe how dumb this show has gotten. Having the characters themselves talk about how ridiculous it all is just makes it worse. It's like a indirect plea to the audience to bear with them even though everyone acknowledges how dumb it all sounds.

Poop I say. POOP.

And I'm just wondering, did we ever find out why Desmond was pushing buttons?