Holy, awesome. Been waiting for that one for a loooong time.
Holy
smurf YOU KATE!!! I was sooooo pissed when she got on the sub.
Also, little scrawny guy hitting JulietI really hope James gets to kill him.
It's so sad that when the doctor was asking Hugo those time related questions, I couldn't come up with answers on the spot either.
Anyway, good episode. Really hoping Jacob makes a genuine appearance in the finale. All I needed is more Sayid, little as it was. I've been missing him hardcore. As for Kate and Jack, I'm honestly not entirely sure which way I would go on the matter.
I would've gone with Nixon on the spot. And I would've been ever so slightly wrong. But hey ask me who the British Prime Minister was in '77 and I would correctly say James Callaghan and none of you have even heard of him so don't judge me.
Was hoping this Richard episode would've explained his past (I wonder if he is associated with the Black Rock! Or Egypt! Or both! Or is he from the future and is Aaron and Yi Jeon's child? WHO KNOWS) but eh it'll do. My face was like Ben's when Locke revealed his grand plan.
This. *nod*Originally Posted by Psychotic
And judging by the preview, she somehow messes up possibly the best relationship Sawyer's ever had.
And the "Jack is Jacob" theory is starting to become more plausible seeing how he's beginning to believe in "fate" and "destiny." I guess we'll find out next week.
Maybe Jack causes the Incident by taking the explosive parts of the H-Bomb to the Swan Site hence emulsifying the pocket of energy which originally discharged. Just a thought.
Though all of DHARMA are gone and its pre-Purge so maybe they did change things?
Or they came back of course...
My wife's following the theory that Locke is actually dead and Jacob inhabits or borrows dead bodies to interact with the inhabitants of the island. This is why Locke, Christian, Claire and Mr. Eko's brother's characters all act differently and omnipotent after they are dead. This is also why no one has ever seen Jacob, as he doesn't have a tangible form. Currently Jacob is using Locke's body and he is testing Richard and Ben when he told Ben that they are headed off to kill Jacob.
I still don't understand why Sun stuck around while all the rest went back in time, other than the fact that the writers wanted to build up to a Jin Sun reunion some time in the future.
Also why would detonating an a-bomb cause everything to get 'fixed'? Jack's lost it and I'm pretty sure Sayid went along to stop him.
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The thought process is that if the bomb detonates then the magnetic energy is never released from the drilling and the bomb neutralizes that energy. Thus the plane never crashes in the future if the bomb goes off and everyone wakes up in a new timeline where the plane never crashed. Similar to the parallel timelines they used in <i>Back to the Future 2</i> where Biff gave himself that sports book and became a billionaire in the alternate 1985.
The contradiction comes in because they've stated that you can't change the past, but what if an action you perform in the past effects your past <i>and</i> future?
Well the bomb would kill everyone so it's a pretty dumb idea.
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i dunno about the rest of you but for some reason i just have this feeling that come season 6 everything that has happened so far will just be obsolete.
like, it seems to me that the whole show so far has been leading up to the season 5 finale, stuff like the hatch being in season 1 then hints of time travel, then full blown time travel, now the story is based around the hatch again, among other things.
but i just get the feeling that they will end up in 2007 again, drop the whole time travel thing and most of the stuff that has happened so far (especially anything dharma related) just wont be important anymore.
i dunno maybe its just me
They said the time-travel stuff will be wrapped up and be over in the finale.
Jack can't succeed because if he blows up the island and they all die and none of it ever happened then there isn't a show anymore so creative wise the writers wouldn't do that.
And yes the idea is to kill them all as well as the pocket of energy which is why the need for an evacuation.
I dunno, you know. That he was building a ship in a bottle makes me think he might be from The Black Rock. Although no reason both can't be true.This. *nod*Well, yeah, Jack's crazy, but Sayid's hardly a bastion of sanity either. Also, I'm going to guess Jack has no idea how the smurf to detonate a hydrogen bomb, and if there's one person on the island who does, it'd be Sayid.
At first, I thought this was a very likely answer to the whole "Locke is alive" mystery, but ... (SPOILER)They've cast an actor for Jacob, so he does have a corporeal form - in fact, spoilers say that Jacob will be visiting the remaining survivors at pivotal moments in their lives: Sawyer's parents' funeral, Sun and Jin's wedding, Nadia's (Sayid's love) murder, and outside Athony Cooper's suite after Locke is thrown from the window. I'm assuming he appears to Hurley while he is in jail and helps him escape, since Hurley's journey back to the Island has yet to be explained. I haven't read anything about Jacob interacting with Kate, which sort of makes me think she either: a) is the one who dies in the finale, or b) the black horse is Jacob appearing to Kate.
ANYWAY - Same goes for Jack. No spoilers about Jacob appearing to him. Why? Because Jack is Jacob. More than likely, the reason Locke is going to kill Jacob is because of he and Jack's longstanding rivalry, since their whole dynamic has been slowly turning them against each other. I think Locke has some special knowledge of the future / past since dying ... Jacob, if he is Jack, seems like he exists 'outside' of time, so in killing Jacob perhaps Locke is going to be the one who truly changes the past, not Jack. What I mean is that Jacob has obviously been around for a long time, so my theory is that Jacob is Jack trapped in a giant time loop that never ends (ie. at the end of time, Jacob is sent back to the beginning), and by killing Jacob (at any point in time) messes this loop up and just smurfs
I'd wager that Jack is definitely the cause of the Incident. Likewise, he is also responsible for the loss of Dr. Chang's arm in the fray. Jack thinks the drilling causes the Incident, so he's gonna blow
(SPOILER)Naw, previews of the finale show Sayid more or less taking charge of the whole operation. He has personal stake in changing the timeline, too, since it would stop Nadia from dying.
Oh, and I'm really confused about the entire third and second season now. If Richard (and, presumeably Ben) knew Jack and Co. time traveled to the past, why were they so antagonistic towards them? Were they trying to truly hurt (or kill) them in an attempt to change the past? On Ben's part, this seems likely. Or, were they trying to nudge the survivors in the right direction? Making sure they follow their destiny? Evidently, the Others do have some way to predict or see the future, since they built the landing strip for flight 316 to land on and Eloise has remarked that she is unsure what is going to happen "for the first time in a long time." I don't know. The whole behavior of the Others in the previous seasons just confuses me now, since they obviously knew that Oceanic 815's crash was more than just a random occurence.
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