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    ...Why is Adel purple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    ...Why is Adel purple?
    As a result of her imprisonment, most likely.

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    She was purple before her imprisonment, as shown by Laguna's scenes. According to the FFVIII Ultimania, physical mutations are a side-effect of using a lot of dark magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    According to the FFVIII Ultimania, physical mutations are a side-effect of using a lot of dark magic.
    I would like to see Adel's appearance before she became a villain. =O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    She was purple before her imprisonment, as shown by Laguna's scenes. According to the FFVIII Ultimania, physical mutations are a side-effect of using a lot of dark magic.
    Time-compressed world. The world wasn't TC'd before Adel started undergoing her imprisonment.

    The moment when Ultimecia passes her own powers to Edea was the turning point of the TC process. That's how Matron looked very normal, so did Adel.

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    I'm just going to say thank you Serapy for getting a new avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    She was purple before her imprisonment, as shown by Laguna's scenes. According to the FFVIII Ultimania, physical mutations are a side-effect of using a lot of dark magic.
    Time-compressed world. The world wasn't TC'd before Adel started undergoing her imprisonment.

    The moment when Ultimecia passes her own powers to Edea was the turning point of the TC process. That's how Matron looked very normal, so did Adel.
    That makes no sense however. If like in a earlier post the mutation was a result of using a lot of dark magic (black magic) then this would be more logical the other logical assumption is because Adel ruled Esthar by means of fear rather than love from her people or so it seems then she could have used her own magic to "transform" her body so it looks visually terrifying to the populace. Still either way unless Square give us the answer I guess we just won't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceglow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    She was purple before her imprisonment, as shown by Laguna's scenes. According to the FFVIII Ultimania, physical mutations are a side-effect of using a lot of dark magic.
    Time-compressed world. The world wasn't TC'd before Adel started undergoing her imprisonment.

    The moment when Ultimecia passes her own powers to Edea was the turning point of the TC process. That's how Matron looked very normal, so did Adel.
    That makes no sense however. If like in a earlier post the mutation was a result of using a lot of dark magic (black magic) then this would be more logical the other logical assumption is because Adel ruled Esthar by means of fear rather than love from her people or so it seems then she could have used her own magic to "transform" her body so it looks visually terrifying to the populace. Still either way unless Square give us the answer I guess we just won't know.
    Makes no sense, how? This is a fantasy game.

    Esthar feared Adel that they locked her up for such a long time. This action relied on thier belief regarding sorceresses, which is a quite harsh reason to do such a thing. There are much better alternatives than locking her up for a long time.

    Would they do the same thing to Rinoa? Perhaps, seeing that Laguna is the pimp of Esthar and the father of Squall. But it's very possible that Laguna will retire his position in the future. A new president may mean a different being with a different mindset (neglecting the true feelings of connections of Rinoa and humans.) He could say "Oh, right. How wonderful of Rinoa and Squall's CO to help us." but will he sense the same feelings as Laguna? Usually, you sense strong feelings when they happen to yourself. If he does, the high chance of cards will be rolling that Esthar will never lock up another sorceress. Otherwise ...

    However, if VIII is a time-compressed world, the feelings are irrelevant, and thus a different matter. Isn't it ironic how Rinoa's look didn't change when she received the powers? She didn't get imprisoned. And it's not because of the love theme. If it was, then I'd be interested to see thier design of Rinoa's "Dark Magic" look. Wait a second, that must be Ultimecia and she's already hot.

    WOW! Squall is so in love with Rinoa he took a SUICIDAL jump out in to space to save her life during a Lunar Cry what DESTROYED the Lunar Space Station but he marries Ellone?
    Have you ever seen the movie called Oldboy? In the end, they have changed but they still love each other.

    I'd like to QFT here.
    Hmmm ... You have basically posted assumptions with the aid of facts from the game. Hardly logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post

    I'd like to QFT here.
    Hmmm ... You have basically posted assumptions with the aid of facts from the game. Hardly logical.
    Theories...backed by....facts...from the GAME!? Inconceivable!

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    I agree that Adel was under used. To me she(he/it/whatever) was scarier than Ultimecia or Edea. From that haunting radio message to the sealed tomb, the game seemed like it was building up to Adel's release, only to find out that she talked big but couldn't back it up.
    "I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron..."

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    I reckon Edea was portrayed very nicely in her introduction just before she kills Deling. That famous FMV of her walking through the door with help of magic has stayed with me all these years. She's shown to be calm and composed, yet undeniably evil.

    I think Adel could have benefited from a contrasting angry and psychotic persona (instead of the 'nothing' Square gave her). She could've had a big speech of her own like Edea did in Deling City or like Rufus did after Sephi kills his old man, but I agree with everyone else in saying that Adel could've been developed better.

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    Anyone knows if you're stuck on Adel get some pulse ammo together and the Exeter rifle Irvine's limit break allows you to target Adel alone not Rinoa as well. Bye Bye Adel with 9999 damage per bullet. a quick trigger finger will end it in just 1 limit break.

    Also with regards to Adel being underused, Adel took Rinoa hostage to get Ultimecia's powers which you stop before it takes place because Adel + Ultimecia = something worse than you can imagine. I think the game should have let the transfer of Ultimecia take place so that you face Adel + Ultimecia super boss and then beefing up Ultimecia herself in the final battle in her castle it would have made the game 5 discs for sure because I envision a Dollet style battlefield going on with Laguna and his government fighting bitterly against resurgent Adel supporters and the Gabaldian army aiding the supporters and Adel in her war to wrest control of the Estharian government and to cap it all off both sides are having a hell of a fight because of the monsters from the Lunar cry. It would have opened up the game to another big battle where Garden is required to go to Esthar to help seeing squads of cadets and SeeD fighting battles along side Estharian troops in the streets of the city to help save civillians ect could have been an awesome extra disc of content.

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    I've said for years Adel was wasted.
    The flashbacks with Laguna really set the tone and it's only made more awesome when everyone is flipping out about her being released. It gives you great insight into how truly frightening she is.

    Also, the whole "well Adel might actually beat Ultimecia" was great too. It made you appreciate how powerful she was if it was theoretically possible she'd defeat the main villain.

    Finally, the fact Adel was never fought at her best but in a weakened state kinda makes you think she's damn near invincible as the game had ot handicap her before the heroes could win.

    Oh and we can't forget Ellone giving that little line about being inside the mind of a young Adel. It makes you wonder what it was like. I'm guessing it was rather tragic and I wish it had been explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depression Moon View Post
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    What do you mean she I thought Adel was a man, hint the manish face and it has no breasts.
    Sorceress. The "ess" is a feminine noun suffix, therefore Adel is a woman.
    Rupe Hall calls himself a queen doesn't mean he's a she does it.
    Ru Paul* But despite outward appearances, Adel is a lady. All sorceresses are female, and the Ultimania says that Adel got transformed by her magic. Sort of like Ultimecia's wings or w/e.

    Quote Originally Posted by nik0tine View Post
    Had Adel replaced Ultimecia as the primary villain of the game this would have been the best final fantasy.
    Yupppppp. Adel was the best part of the game.

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