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    Quote Originally Posted by The Space Pope View Post
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    does his difficulty change at 99?
    Yeah, he gains an additional 30,000HP or something like that, and I know the party's levels effect Sephiroth's difficulty in some other way but I don't remember if it was just HP or not.

    And I like blackmage_nuke's idea.]\

    edit: looked up for more accurate stats

    +30,000 HP, 2 Att, 20 Def, 5 MAtk, 16 MDef per character at level 99
    +80,000 HP if Knights of Round is cast on Jenova
    Oh, well i usally used 4x cut a lot for qudrupal 9,999 damage so thats prolly why i didnt notice.

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    However, chocobos... Need a materia to catch em, so maybe I won't be able to get far unless I grind so I can kill the snake in the marshes.
    Just use a Deadly Waste on it and wait for it to die of poison.

    Should be easy!
    He uses a strong enemy skill at lo hp that does a lot of damage so if your not at least around lvs 24 25 itll kill you all in one hit
    Edit: he also almost always flips one character away. the dude in that video was very very lucky i think


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkswordofchaos View Post
    He uses a strong enemy skill at lo hp that does a lot of damage so if your not at least around lvs 24 25 itll kill you all in one hit
    Edit: he also almost always flips one character away. the dude in that video was very very lucky i think
    Ejecting a character from battle and using Beta are both counterattacks; if you don't attack it, it won't do those things. And if you use poison, it takes damage without it counting as an "attack."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi View Post
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    He uses a strong enemy skill at lo hp that does a lot of damage so if your not at least around lvs 24 25 itll kill you all in one hit
    Edit: he also almost always flips one character away. the dude in that video was very very lucky i think
    Ejecting a character from battle and using Beta are both counterattacks; if you don't attack it, it won't do those things. And if you use poison, it takes damage without it counting as an "attack."

    oooohhh i see. well i just grinded to level 27 and beat him so i could get beta enemy skill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi View Post
    Just use a Deadly Waste on it and wait for it to die of poison.

    Should be easy!
    Haha, that's really clever. Without his counter-attacks, the Zolom is just a big pansy.

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    If you need to use magic there are plenty of items that can substitute for it. Also, instead of power leveling you could've just ran across the marsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sword View Post
    If you need to use magic there are plenty of items that can substitute for it. Also, instead of power leveling you could've just ran across the marsh.
    You talkin to me?
    and if so i wanted to fight the zolom and beat him


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    Hmm, my run got cut a little shorter than I expected, the boss you verse while riding the elevator decimated me like 5 times, should have bought more potions...

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    yup, it's gonna come down to carrying no less than 70 of each health/status items, when the materia's gone the items finaly get some use... i'm usualy lvl.20-25 before i leave Midgar, i get most of those levels by trying to steal the Striking Staff from Eligor in the Train Graveyard and trying to steal a Hardedge from the Soldier 3rds & thee Carbon Bangels from Moth Slashers in ShinRa HQ, carry plenty of potions and dedicate one character to healing, without Materia it's all about the grind...

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    70 of each health/status item is a bit tough so early in the game. But yes, without materia those items become extremely important, especially so early on.

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    It gets much easier later on, once you get W-Ite--oh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi View Post
    Just use a Deadly Waste on it and wait for it to die of poison.

    Should be easy!
    Haha, that's really clever. Without his counter-attacks, the Zolom is just a big pansy.
    That is clever. I actually had no idea that it could be done that way.

    I suppose one thing that's worth bearing in mind during the materialess game is that some of your stats will be better than they would be otherwise. Your attack and HP, for instance, that would normally get lowered by your materia will be improved somewhat.
    Not my words Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post

    That is clever. I actually had no idea that it could be done that way.

    I suppose one thing that's worth bearing in mind during the materialess game is that some of your stats will be better than they would be otherwise. Your attack and HP, for instance, that would normally get lowered by your materia will be improved somewhat.
    Yeah, but also keep in mind the HP Plus materia, it's a life saver when you're going for a low level game and it balances out the negative effects of the green materia.

    I might try this when I'm done with FF9
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    I never have a huge problem with taking the Zolom early, because I train Cloud's Limit Breaks up to Level 3 before I leave Midgar. And Meteorain slaughters the Zolom, even at low levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkswordofchaos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sword View Post
    If you need to use magic there are plenty of items that can substitute for it. Also, instead of power leveling you could've just ran across the marsh.
    You talkin to me?
    and if so i wanted to fight the zolom and beat him
    Naw mainly for FFIX Choco Boy.

    On a side note: I didn't know Beta was a counter attack.....so that's why I saw it very rarely lol.

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    Yeah one of the big criticisms I hear about the game is that it is too easy. Given we can alter the PC version totally in this respect that is what I am doing So that the game can become challenging. For example, I gave Sepher (safer) Sephiroth more HP and made his Supernova attack an instant game over (steals all party hp and mp so no final attack can be used).

    It is pretty cool what people can achieve, like people run through FF9 on level 1. (although there was a degree of deliberateness about this, as getting the Exalibur II sword is the ultimate challenge).

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