The End of the World!

[rubah]

*takes foa off the Talk to the Aliens with Super Massive Weapons To Wipe Out the Human Race list*

[Mercen-X]

There's tons of evidencing pointing to the validity of the theory of evolution. Don't tell me you're one of the people who dismiss it purely on it being a theory and not a law or something to that effect? The evidence is overwhelming, while proof for creationism is pretty much nonexistent. That's why it's called faith, belief in something in the absence of proof.

And what evidencing supports evolution praytell?

I also do not believe all life on Earth will ever go extinct.

Secondly, the earth is a planet and cannot go extinct. It can cease to allow life to function and/or be destroyed.

You may want to re-read my post,

I agree. At least that there is no such thing as "Dinosaurs" which was just a placeholder for a fossil which was unidentified and that no species has lived for hundreds of millions of years. In fact, I believe the longest any species of animal has ever lived may be closer to about 500 years or less.

Of course there are such things as dinosaurs, it's like saying "mammal" or "reptile".

And you really think sharks are less than 500 years old as as species? Sharks have remained fairly untouched for ages, they're pretty much always been perfect killing machines.

Dinosaurs are not a species or a reference to a type of species, the term is merely a reference to the skeleton's size. Mammal refers to a species whose females have mammary glands which allow them to provide milk for their young. Reptile refers to any animal that creeps.

Actually, when I said that part, I meant to refer to individual animals within a species. Still, no species has existed on our planet for even a million years. BTW, your statement kind of flies in the face of evolution. How can any one species already be perfected through evolution if anything else is supposedly still evolving?

[rubah]

Well, everything else keeps getting killed off by predators, and so the ones that aren't being killed off by predators might have different traits that support not getting killed off by predators, and slowly they become more adept at not getting killed.

If you're not getting killed off before you have chances to reproduce, your species is not going to change so much.


Evolution doesn't happen to happen. It's a trend that stems from the natural predator/prey responses.


Adobe releases Photoshop in the '80s. Arthouses pick it up and use it. People pirate it because they can't afford it, and need it to make money. Adobe puts in place anti-piracy safeguards. Pirates get around those. The safeguards become more sophisticated. So does the piracy. Each side is evolving mechanisms to get what they want to survive.

Eventually photoshop becomes the de facto image manipulation program. With this steady stream of infood, it's less imperative that adobe fights off every single pirate. The stream of a few people paying a lot for the product becomes more profitable than the same amount of people paying a little and everyone else still pirating. They have achieved some sort of "perfection" and don't have to change their anti-piracy tactics except the amount required by law for them to say 'We are making an effort to protect our product'.

That is the only reason I can imagine that they would put a full demo on-line for anyone to download that can be easily cracked to be the full program. For everything in their suite.


Similarly, sharks may get killed off by humans, but they have a steady gig of eating aquatic animals. Hardly anything eats sharks. Their skin is incredibly tough and impenetrable. They have so many damn razorsharp teeth. They can live in zones that other animals can hardly dream about going (including humans).

If the sharks lose their food source, and if Adobe lose their corporate stronghold, they will begin to change. The only difference is that the sharks will change by the accumulation of desirable traits and that adobe will change by inventing marketing tactics and product features.

[Raistlin]

Evolution doesn't happen to happen. It's a trend that stems from the natural predator/prey responses.

Predators are just one environmental pressure for natural selection. There are tons of others, from ecological (weather, temperature) to behavioral (mating traits, etc.). Mutations are actually the biggest driving force of genetic variation, but natural selection ensures that beneficial mutations spread.

And what evidencing supports evolution praytell?

You mean beyond everything we know about biology? Our own bodies, from anatomy to genetics? How does creationism explain the fact that the mitochondria in our cells has its own DNA and looks suspiciously like an ancient bacteria (which, according to a universally accepted theory, began a symbiotic relationship with our multi-cellular ancestors hundreds of millions of years ago). Since I take it you haven't actually cracked a textbook, talkorigins is an excellent resource to catch you up to speed.

[fire_of_avalon]

@MILFy i agree dead people can`t atone. i just don`t think most people care enough about the world around them to stop all the terrible things they do. i don`t really think everyone should die, i just think the world would be healthier if we did.

and i think you should die for all the Manilow. terriblem

[Fujiko]

For a long time I've considered living with Rantzien because nobody cares about Sweden. I don't think they've even invented the wheel over there yet. I feel confident Pontus and I will outlive all of you in the Three Little Pigs straw shack he inhabits.

Take that fake glitter of yours and stick it, why don't ya?!

See now I know why we're not friends! Hmph!

[Madame Adequate]

@MILFy i agree dead people can`t atone. i just don`t think most people care enough about the world around them to stop all the terrible things they do. i don`t really think everyone should die, i just think the world would be healthier if we did.

and i think you should die for all the Manilow. terriblem

Oh no you din't. That was just banter before but it is on now.

[rubah]

wait wtf his eyes move

[Meat Puppet]

The Earth could be so polluted that humans can no longer comfortably survive on its surface, and the planet will still indifferently orbit around the sun nevertheless.

Earth really doesn’t care, it’s just us.

Hell, if <i>I</i> were Earth, I’d be fine being a wasteland. At least I would fit in with my peers.

[Rodarian]

Earth really doesn’t care, it’s just us.

Hell, if <i>I</i> were Earth, I’d be fine being a wasteland. At least I would fit in with my peers.

Somewhere out there, another 'green' planet is observing us and telling their populus that earth was once like us but decided to follow the pact instead of being a rebel.

[NorthernChaosGod]

i think humanity could use a plague. we`re too greedy and lazy and gluttonous to be of any use to this planet anymore and we need to be put in our place.

You might deserve that. I didn't do anything.

tell me 5 ways you`re making the world a better place in that case. we`re all sinners, babe. and we should all atone for the pain, damage and destruction we cause. at least that`s what i think.

The world isn't black and white, you're not automatically a bad person by not making the world a better place. Most people will never impact the world in any significant way, that has no bearing on morality.

Dinosaurs are not a species or a reference to a type of species, the term is merely a reference to the skeleton's size.

So somehow this and this are both dinosaurs and the term refers to size? Explain how that makes any sense.

[Meat Puppet]

Earth really doesn’t care, it’s just us.

Hell, if <i>I</i> were Earth, I’d be fine being a wasteland. At least I would fit in with my peers.

Somewhere out there, another 'green' planet is observing us and telling their populus that earth was once like us but decided to follow the pact instead of being a rebel.

if this is true then there is likely a hefty number of failures and successes to make whatever path we choose redundant to this casual observer

[theundeadhero]

I'll never understand why people worry about or fear over things they can't control. For the most part we probably won't be the ones ending the world. It will just happen. Whether that happening be religious or circumstance we won't be able to stop it.

[Mercen-X]

Evolution doesn't happen to happen. It's a trend that stems from the natural predator/prey responses.

Predators are just one environmental pressure for natural selection. There are tons of others, from ecological (weather, temperature) to behavioral (mating traits, etc.). Mutations are actually the biggest driving force of genetic variation, but natural selection ensures that beneficial mutations spread.

There's no such thing as a "beneficial mutation." Where have you ever seen one?

the mitochondria in our cells has its own DNA and looks suspiciously like an ancient bacteria (which, according to a universally accepted theory, began a symbiotic relationship with our multi-cellular ancestors hundreds of millions of years ago). Since I take it you haven't actually cracked a textbook, talkorigins is an excellent resource to catch you up to speed.

"Universally accepted theory."
And by textbook, I suppose you refer to those "scientific" texts which have been forged filled with altered pictures by scientifically defamed authors who have long since been heavily criticized for their criminal behavior by their peers. Don't ask me why these pictures are still used in textbooks, I guess they just wanted to give you something to look at.

You know it's funny or sad to think that everyone who now denies there is a God will eventually be turning to a False God to save them from poverty and death.

Dinosaurs are not a species or a reference to a type of species, the term is merely a reference to the skeleton's size.

So somehow this and this are both dinosaurs and the term refers to size? Explain how that makes any sense.

Don't blame me. I'm not the one who coined the term. Blame the "genius" that named the fossils.

[rubah]

scientifically defamed authors who have long since been heavily criticized for their criminal behavior by their peers.

Alan Turing was a criminal, too, but it doesn't lessen his additions to cryptography and computer science. John Milton wrote Paradise Lost as a criminal. Saul of Tarsus was a criminal. Jesus was a criminal. I don't get what you're saying here.